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2020/2021 season target

  • Win everything we enter!!

    Votes: 14 12.7%

  • Title challenge and pick up at least 1 trophy.

    Votes: 30 27.3%

  • Top 4 and get to the later stages (at least) of cup competitions.

    Votes: 45 40.9%

  • Top 4. The cup competition are less important.

    Votes: 2 1.8%

  • Secure a Europa League spot. Top 4 would be tough, and a bonus.

    Votes: 3 2.7%

  • The league doesn't matter. Just win a trophy of any nature.

    Votes: 10 9.1%

  • Who cares - just sack Mourinho so we can focus on our future without him.

    Votes: 6 5.5%
  • Total voters
    110
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Igula said:
We weren't chasing a goal though it was tied on aggregate and Llorente had already shown that he wasn't effective as a 90 minute player.

It is ok to look at context and have different opinion on what should be done in different games. You understand that people don't just have to have blanket opinions on things and can actually look at the situation and make a judgement based on that.
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Scored in the 87th minute to win against Watford the very next game
 
Igula said:
Wrong.

The poster claimed that Poch had an issue with bringing on guys to late when I needed, I pointed out that Jose has had that same issue here as evidenced by Sissoko repeatedly staying on in games where we needed offense.

So it has nothing to do with slagging jose for using Sissko and not Poch and everything to do with responding to the specific post.

So if that is your level of reading comprehension I would suggest you try harder.
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Errmm in your initial post you defended Poch for making early game changes and used Sissoko staying on as an example of Jose’s shortcomings.

Don’t you think that’s a strange example if they both played Sissoko too much?
 
Igula said:
We weren't chasing a goal though it was tied on aggregate and Llorente had already shown that he wasn't effective as a 90 minute player.

It is ok to look at context and have different opinion on what should be done in different games. You understand that people don't just have to have blanket opinions on things and can actually look at the situation and make a judgement based on that.
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Not chasing a goal while drawing a semi final?
Was we playing for a point?
 
sammyspurs said:
Errmm in your initial post you defended Poch for making early game changes and used Sissoko staying on as an example of Jose’s shortcomings.

Don’t you think that’s a strange example if they both played Sissoko too much?
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No in my initial post I said Jose would not solve that problem.

This is exactly what I said:

Have you watched Jose this season?

You think he is going to be the one to improve on the strategy of waiting too long to make subs?

Nowhere in that am I defending Poch.

So no I do not think it is odd to point out something they both did when my point is that Jose will not fix the problem that the poster brought up.
 
Baggio1988 said:
Just play for penalties and leave it up to luck
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I don't think it is crazy to take off an older player that had shown he struggled to play a full 90 minutes, is slow and not a great defender when you are playing a similarly talented team and are late in a game in which you are tied on aggregate.

I mean the great Jose Mourinho just had his team play for a draw for a whole half against a much inferior team relying on a result in a different game to stay the same.
 
Igula said:
No in my initial post I said Jose would not solve that problem.

This is exactly what I said:

Have you watched Jose this season?

You think he is going to be the one to improve on the strategy of waiting too long to make subs?

Nowhere in that am I defending Poch.

So no I do not think it is odd to point out something they both did when my point is that Jose will not fix the problem that the poster brought up.
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It is odd to point out they both left Sissoko on too long while saying :
Igula said:
There were games in which Poch switched guys early as well.

Look how long Sissoko stays out there in games in which we are desperate for a goal.
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sammyspurs said:
It is odd to point out they both left Sissoko on too long while saying :
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Why is that odd when the point is that Jose won't fix the problem.

My point is not that it wasn't an issue with Poch the point is that both of them can be accused of that issue.

In fact I would expand it to say that waiting to long for subs is likely a top 5 complaint that fans have about all managers.

Again get over the fact that you need to blame Poch for everything and read what is actually being discussed.
 
Igula said:
I don't think it is crazy to take off an older player that had shown he struggled to play a full 90 minutes, is slow and not a great defender when you are playing a similarly talented team and are late in a game in which you are tied on aggregate.

I mean the great Jose Mourinho just had his team play for a draw for a whole half against a much inferior team relying on a result in a different game to stay the same.
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Where had he shown he struggled to play 90 mins? Poch hardly ever game him any mins. Like i said he scored in the 87th minute the next game
 
Baggio1988 said:
Where had he shown he struggled to play 90 mins? Poch hardly ever game him any mins. Like i said he scored in the 87th minute the next game
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He showed it throughout his whole play with us.

Given less minutes he was struggling. he was 33 years old and never a guy with pace. Is this where the pathetic need to blame Poch has gone that people are arguing whether a 33 year old Llorente was a guy that should or should not have been a 90 minute starter for us?
 
Igula said:
Why is that odd when the point is that Jose won't fix the problem.

My point is not that it wasn't an issue with Poch the point is that both of them can be accused of that issue.

In fact I would expand it to say that waiting to long for subs is likely a top 5 complaint that fans have about all managers.

Again get over the fact that you need to blame Poch for everything and read what is actually being discussed.
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I have read it. Stop wriggling.

You’re defending a serial loser who played Son at LB
 
sammyspurs said:
So we can drop Kane altogether then?
Why play anyone twice? They might be shit next week
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LOL

Is that how pathetic your argument is now that you can't see the difference between Kane and Llorente?

Why is Llorente not starting every week for someone, did they not see he scored in the 87th minute against Watford????
 
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