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And there it is your pathetic need to blame Poch comes out again.
There is no wriggling it is clear as day what is happening but because you need to blame Poch you only see what you want.
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And there it is your pathetic need to blame Poch comes out again.
There is no wriggling it is clear as day what is happening but because you need to blame Poch you only see what you want.
Llorente has won more than everyone at our club combined bar Jose
You just said his good hold up play was the reason we made the CL final. But you don’t think he could score a penalty
If he scores we still lose 4-3.
Not odd that they score but no guarantee.
It is why other players that strikers take PKs during the game and why coaches don't load up with strikers late in the game when PKs are a possibility.
I don’t “need” to blame Poch.
He was the manager who made decisions that lost this club 3 semis and 2 finals in five years.
You might think the chairman picked the team, that’s your problem though.
Not if he scored between the 68th and 90th minute though.
And your point is moot.
You don’t play for penalties with no striker in the squad
Where did i say he couldn't score a penalty.
Quote the exact place since it seems your move is it just keep making things up that others say so it fits your narrative.
Who cares if he won more than anyone else? That does nothing if he isn't good enough to win now.
And yes in the situation where we were down a goal, against a young Ajax squad showing their nerves he was a perfect option. Again I will say as it seems to be a hard thing for you to understand, context matters. Just because something worked once doesn't mean it works in every situation. Just because someone won once doesn't mean they spend their careers winning every time.
You act as this club was winning non-stop trophies before he came and after he left.
The players on the pitch were the ones that lost 3 semi's and 2 finals. Sorry I don't give them a pass or ignore the fact that better teams beat us so that I can jump on your pathetic hate Poch train.
So you “think he was a penalty specialist“ too then? Or by that you meant you think he would have buried it...?
Who cares if we have an experienced trophy winning striker on the pitch?
Well I cared v City and Ajax in the CL, odd that you didn’t seeing as you a giving Poch a rim job for getting to the final eh
You’re all over the shop pal, take a breather.
You’re talking about games we lost as if we won them, and games we won like it didn’t really matter who helped us win them
Point being their European record is shit, your mentioning them in the same breath as Madrid is embarrassing. Players join City for the wages, end of discussion.
If we are scored on between the 68th and 90th minute because of a mistake that Llorente made then what?
Or if the sub that comes on for Llorente with fresh legs beats a tired Chelsea player then what?
The fact that some here are trying to say that subbing off Llorente is some sign of Poch's awful managing is laughable. The fact that they are pumping Jose at the same time as whining about supposedly playing for pens shows the agenda they are pushing.
The fact that we are even talking about Llorente being a key player for us is evidence enough of what the real problem was with this team and winning.
And there we have it.
You just absolved Jose and Levy because in your view players lose games.
You’ve shot your bollocks off here buddy, good luck next time
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Please show me any post (I know you cant or wont as making up shit is your whole bread and butter) of me even praising Poch for getting us to the final? I have repeatedly stated that we got there on luck and other outside factors.
Yes who cares if we have a trophy winning striker on the pitch if he is not good enough.
Never once talked about a game we lost as if we won it. Please quote where I said that. Again we all know you won't.
No chance of him being a key player for us the chubby Argentinean never hardly used him or gave him a decent chance
Absolved Jose of what? I never blamed him for anything.
And how is Levy absolved when he is the reason we do not have the players in here to win trophies?
LOL you are a fun poster. Just make up anything you want, ignore reality and them claim some sort of "win" when you only made up arguments in your head using statements nobody made.
I respect your commitment from totally ignoring reality and it must be awesome to just ignore everything and create narratives in your head. I am sure it is a much easier way to go through life than actually dealing with reality.
Neither did anyone else. Has he been killing it since he left us?
He was very meh for Swansea before coming here, did very little to show that he was anything more than a late game high ball specialist when with us and has now sucked with Napoli since going there.
I guess by your logic Klopp is a idiot for not giving me a chance in the CL for Liverpool.
Again if your big complaint against Poch is that Llorente wasn't used enough I think it shows how weak your argument against Poch is.
Didn’t have the players to win a cup?
You didn’t realise that before the Chelsea cup defeat, we’d beaten them in the first leg, and the last two PL games.
So three straight wins against Chelsea but we didn’t have the players to beat them.
Awwwwww you didn’t know did you, how sweet.
Also, did you realise that sandwiched between the Utd semi final bottle job defeat, we’d beaten them in the PL 2-0 and 3-0?
But we didn’t have the players to beat them either?
Awwww you don’t know your history do you, good effort though mate.
Neither did anyone else so in his whole career no one gave him a chance?
15 goals in 33 games for Swansea is a very good return
And my argument about poch is he is a complete fraud who will never win a trophy in his life
I did know and not once said any different.
Is this the first time that a team had lost a game to a team after beating them before? Has it ever happened in a Cup match or CL match, maybe even a WC match where a team that had previously won now lost?
The point is we never were the best team and even if we were best teams lose all the time. Winning trophies is hard. That's why so few teams have won them. Its why the vast majority of his career the great Jose Mourinho has lost the Cup competitions he has gone into. Its why this great Liverpool team has zero domestic trophies and only one CL trophy and one PL title. Other teams are good too.