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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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sammyspurs said:
No when he broke through he was in world class form but in my opinion it was way too early to call it.
The last few seasons he’s been world class on his day, and anonymous off it.

I think he’s had too many no shows to be labeled world class, because my judgment of world class is to compare all time greats, not just current rivals.

So generally, Kane is just below world class S a player for me, due to inconsistency and from dips

Right now, he is below his best.
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All irrelevant nonsense

It's so obvious you want to have an argument about how good Kane is or whether he's world class.
I ACCEPTED THAT HE'S AS GOOD AS YOU SAY AND NO BETTER.
Yet you can't handle it cos if I agree you're stuck and exposed.
 
sammyspurs said:
Not really because it explains my rather fair appraisal of the player
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Hiding from the question again
What do we do then to move forward?
Berate Kane until he reaches the heights YOU'VE set despite YOUR evidence this has been going on for years.
YOU said we overrate him but he's capable of MORE.
He'll 28 this year and had a million ankles injuries.
If trying harder would have worked at least 1 manager would have sorted it.

What do we change Sammy?

Your fear is blatant
 
sammyspurs said:
Kane changes his form and helps Son and Ndombele out a bit
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He hasn't done it by now. You know this but you're clearly stuck and hoping I give up if you go round in circles shamelessly.

What do we do then to move forward?
Berate Kane until he reaches the heights YOU'VE set despite YOUR evidence this has been going on for years.
YOU said we overrate him but he's capable of MORE.
He'll 28 this year and had a million ankles injuries.
If trying harder would have worked at least 1 manager would have sorted it.

What do we change Sammy?
 
Team Tanguy said:
He hasn't done it by now. You know this but you're clearly stuck and hoping I give up if you go round in circles shamelessly.

What do we do then to move forward?
Berate Kane until he reaches the heights YOU'VE set despite YOUR evidence this has been going on for years.
YOU said we overrate him but he's capable of MORE.
He'll 28 this year and had a million ankles injuries.
If trying harder would have worked at least 1 manager would have sorted it.

What do we change Sammy?
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Feel free to disagree
 
sammyspurs said:
Oh here’s comes Messi again whoopy

Swings and roundabouts, I could say how can Bergwijn or Moura improve their form when the whole team is poor?

Or is that only and excuse for Kane?
Why is the common perception that shit players should lift the world class ones, rather than the other way around?

And how is it that Kane was in form earlier in the season despite Moura, Dier Davies etc all still being “absolute shit”
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Because if you provided chances on a plate to Berwign and Lucas, they'd waste 80% of them. Provide more chances to Kane and he'd take the majority.

The 'service' we provide to him is abysmal, hence him dropping back into midfield just to get a touch of the ball.

If he was in this City team with Sterling, Silva and de Bruyne lining them up, he'd score 30+ a season (and probably more).

Part of me wishes he'd go to club where:

a) he'd fulfil his quest for honours
b) be on £300K+ per week
c) his game time is managed and he's not flogged to death like we do.

Being surrounded by the shower that we currently provide must get him (and his agents) thinking.
 
mikes01666 said:
Because if you provided chances on a plate to Berwign and Lucas, they'd waste 80% of them. Provide more chances to Kane and he'd take the majority.

The 'service' we provide to him is abysmal, hence him dropping back into midfield just to get a touch of the ball.

If he was in this City team with Sterling, Silva and de Bruyne lining them up, he'd score 30+ a season (and probably more).

Part of me wishes he'd go to club where:

a) he'd fulfil his quest for honours
b) be on £300K+ per week
c) his game time is managed and he's not flogged to death like we do.

Being surrounded by the shower that we currently provide must get him (and his agents) thinking.
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When all
Is said and done you’re taking about an in form Kane.
I’ve no problem with an in form Kane
 
sammyspurs said:
Hmmm no, not higher than you all think, just the level you all think he is now
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Either way since he broke through he's not reached it (true potential) even when he was younger, fitter and smashing records GALORE.
2 very different managers weren't able to get that true potential even a serial winner.

Sambo come on. You're not making any sense darling.

What do we change?
 
I agree with Sammy and ask him how we fix the problems he points out using logic and without contradicting himself. Drake nah face . Hide, run, cower. Selective answering, one liners. Play dumb.

Opportunity for Sammy to argue with essays that Kane is crap for the 1000th time with someone. Drake yes face.
 
Team Tanguy said:
Either way since he broke through he's not reached it (true potential) even when he was younger, fitter and smashing records GALORE.
2 very different managers weren't able to get that true potential even a serial winner.

Sambo come on. You're not making any sense darling.

What do we change?
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It was too early to call when he just broke through.
Had he still played like that the last couple years of course he’d be world class.
As it stands, he’s just below and I’ve said why I feel that way
 
sammyspurs said:
It was too early to call when he just broke through.
Had he still played like that the last couple years of course he’d be world class.
As it stands, he’s just below and I’ve said why I feel that way
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Ok so now Kane was world class BEFORE, but not NOW.
Great. Except we didn't win anything then!

So now you're implying even if Kane was world class it wouldn't make a difference. Since the conditions Kane operates in have always been sufficient to win things according to YOU.

Lmao

Killing yourself even more mate.
 
sammyspurs said:
It was too early to call
He was showing world class form but time showed that he is just below world class overall as a player

In my view
I’ve explained why I feel that way
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Okay so what did we win when he was showing world class form? Fuck all. But you said he operates in the right conditions for success.
HOW CAN KANE SHOW WORLD CLASS FORM AND NOT WIN ANYTHING WHILST ALSO OPERATING IN SUFFICIENT CONDITIONS TO WIN THINGS?

That means he has to be better than world class lmao. Messi is literally the bar YOU are setting.
 
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