It was certainly a weird time to sack him just before the Semi. Levy seems to like doing that.
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I know he is decent for the Dutch but Bergwijn should still leave in the summer. He won’t get the run of games he needs and he should get us a big sum of money to invest in someone better and more consistent
I don't know if its controversial, but its true. Tottenham don't need a new left wing-back, unless someone offers 40 or 35m for Reguilon. Both wing-backs in this position have so much potential unlike the RWB position. There are other positions we need to concentrate on in the summer.
Some of the songs we sing are crap and embarrassing. Too many over the years involve someone hating another team, predictable and boring.
Why didn’t we ever get past singing about Judas or John Terry when it came to Ledley? Born is the king and all that.
Our supporters don’t get behind the team like they need to at times.
Why didn’t we ever get past singing about Judas or John Terry when it came to Ledley? Born is the king and all that.
Our supporters don’t get behind the team like they need to at times.
This isn't controversial its just the truth. I never understood why we had to sing about our captain in relation to someone else.
We either need a new LWB or one of the two here to step up and improve MASSIVELY if we want to be a serious team next season.
Whilst I agree that there are other areas where the need is greater it doesn't mean that our LWB situation is good.
Singing "stand up if you hate Asrenal" when we are not even playing them is bollocks too. Makes us look like chumps.
Son’s first season being bad is a common myth. 15/16 he got 8 goals and 5 assists in 42. Lamela that same season got 11 and 10 in 44. But here’s the key part, in the Prem Son had 4 goals in 28 with 13 starts and 15 appearances off the bench, versus Lamela’s 5 goals in 34 games, 28 starts and 6 off the bench. All this off transfermarkt btw. I refuse to believe if Son didn’t start more games he wouldn’t have outdone Lamela, Poch was just weirdly wary of playing new signings.
16/17, when Son actually played he gave us 21 goals and 9 assists in 47 games overall, 14 and 8 of that being in the Prem in 23 starts and 11 off the bench. Lamela on the other hand gave us a gigantic 2 goals and 7 assists in 14 appearances, with a whopping 1 goals and 1 assist in the Prem and he missed damn near the whole season with a hip injury.
Also I don’t know why everyone forgets Son also had one of his biggest injuries v early on w us in his first season, plantar fasciitis which kept him out for 7 games, still to this day the most games Son’s missed with us due to injury. Heung-min Son - Injury history if you don’t believe it. Also the timing of the injury; he got it in September right after an early run that included scoring on his home debut v Palace, 2 on his European debut for us v qarabag and then helped cement the 4-1 win over City. Shitty timing. If he doesn’t get that injury imo he shows the player that was clearly in there far sooner. Who knows maybe we actually catch Leicester if our 3 in behind Kane were all firing rather than just two of them.
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I said "not particularly good".... Not that he was bad.
Neither were exactly prolific.
4 v 5 EPL goals all season....... Hardly exhibits that Sonny was already proving himself to be a significantly bigger goal threat. Then factor in-game contribution beyond goals. It's far from a big reach to conclude that Poch thought Lamela offered more overall to begin with (which the eye test would back up!).
OK, maybe Poch routinely was slow with player integration, but that's a factor outside of Lamela being prolific or otherwise.
So how the hell does Lamela stand accused of wrongly keeping Son out of the team in that year then?
Typical XI that season:
Hugo
Walker / Dier / Toby / Jan / Rose
Wanyama / Dembele
Dele / Eriksen
Kane
Meanwhile Sonny, was (so to speak) #12 in the squad that year.
48 games
23 EPL starts.....
Damn solid appearance stats for someone outside of the starting XI (of which Lamela was not a part!)... Esp. when you consider that this season (unlike the one before amongt those 48 would also have been CL appearances - Unlike the year before where Sonny got half his goals in the Europa League!).
You also noted that
15/16: 8G in 42app
16/17: 21G in 47app
...That's a huge leap. This further paints that Son indeed wasn't at full throttle in season 1.
So injury was a another thing that hampered Sonny earning himself a starting berth in his first season.
Ergo; there's little at play here to substantiate the idea that Lamela was explicitly picked at Son's expense in either season.
15/16: Son injured. Learning the ropes. Not showing the goalscoring prowess that would come in time.
16/17: Formation rendered Son the 12th man...... Prolific regardless ergo:
17/18: ........Formation shifted again and Sonny became a first XI player.
Lamela really isn't a significant part of that narrative.
Sonny had plantar fasciitis during his first season. That's why he was in and out of the team and struggled during games. There was little more to it than that.
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Having been first choice at Spurs after he signed, Son’s progress was curtailed by a foot injury that ruled him out for six weeks between September and November. He had damaged the plantar fascia — the band of tissue that stretches from the heel to the middle bones of the foot, which resembles a ligament. It is an injury that can take time to heal completely and under other circumstances, Son might have been out for longer. As a consequence, he struggled to reach his peak immediately after the injury but his midweek efforts suggest he is very close.
Heung-min Son desperate to halt Tottenham's striker search
Mauricio Pochettino is searching this month for the forward with “the right profile” to improve Tottenham’s attack yet perhaps the player is under his nose.
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Having been first choice at Spurs after he signed, Son’s progress was curtailed by a foot injury that ruled him out for six weeks between September and November. He had damaged the plantar fascia — the band of tissue that stretches from the heel to the middle bones of the foot, which resembles a ligament. It is an injury that can take time to heal completely and under other circumstances, Son might have been out for longer. As a consequence, he struggled to reach his peak immediately after the injury but his midweek efforts suggest he is very close.
^^^^^ 100% this ^^^^^^^
It's always grated that many of our songs about some of our better players mention players from OTHER clubs...
Eriksen > Özil
Dele > Özil (again)
Ledley King > John Terry
Kane > Michael Owen...
You know the song, "He's one of our Owen, he's one of our Owen..."
OK, maybe not that one!!
Even the new Kulusevski chant mentions Juventus...
It's like we're obsessed with everyone else!
Same with the song for Dele. The "better than Özil" line is literally only relevant when playing Woolwich, and hasn't even been relevant for them since Özil left.
Following on from this, we have had a lack of songs for quite some time. It’s the same old weary songs and we definitely need some catchy new material.
And a lot of our recent songs aren't organic. The Deki song turned out to be created in some dude's room and super imposed over other footage of singing fans I believe.
This isn't a fact, it's a hypothetical. You get rid of sportswasher clubs and certain managers and players end up at traditionally big clubs instead. It changes the whole face of football. You can't just get rid of them and say because we finished 2nd we would've won the league if they didn't exist. We can only judge the owners success on reality, not fantasy.
Also .. a few more domestic cups? We'd have just faced different teams .. again, zero guarantee that we would end up beating them.
Why don't they start singing this one again:
"Ay yi yi yi yi
Lloris is better than Yashin
Bentacur is better than Eusebio
And Newcastle's in for a thrashing"
Err...maybe that needs updating, too...
OK, probably not phrased as well as I might, but we have a better claim to any of those accolades than anyone else having been the second place team in those scenarios.
If the authorities revoked those honours from Chavski & City tomorrow we'd be seen as the winners by proxy.
(For any Spurs fans to deny us this much would just underline an undue anti-ENIC bias.)
We'd also have had 100's more million in the bank to compete for the above mentioned players thanks to more 4 finishes and a better stature to attract them with.... Hazard immedaitely springs to mind for starters. Imagine a CL regulars team consisting of Modrich, Bale & Hazard FFS!!!!
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We would have seen more success in the ESL than we will in the PL/CL
After Poch had us in the champions league for Three successive seasons, we then proceeded to become the first top flight club, ever, in any major league, to spend zilch...zip....nada......sweet fanny adams.....for one and a half fucking years!
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Some people just don't think before they post
How?