He’s got more chance than you doI just wonder, seeing as you think there are Prem worthy coaches toiling away in the Aussie & Japanese leagues, do you think this bloke has got what it takes to be a Prem manager as well?
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He’s got more chance than you doI just wonder, seeing as you think there are Prem worthy coaches toiling away in the Aussie & Japanese leagues, do you think this bloke has got what it takes to be a Prem manager as well?
By 2019 summer after what poch had done with levy’s “spending” he couldn’t do any more. Plus he has amenity credit and good will in the bank. Ange has still to show that he deserves the goodwill.Spot on. It was Brighton away, 3 nil, Poch had clearly lost the dressing room (as was later confirmed by The Athletic's post mortem). One of the worst displays I've ever seen from a Spurs side.
If I'm not wrong we had something like 25 points from Poch's last 24 league games - relegation form for effectively 3/4s of a season - and our last away win hadn't been for 9 (!) months. The CL run in the meantime papered over a lot of cracks and while the usual melts in the media were moaning that Poch didn't deserve the sack (*cough* Lineker) the reality was he should've gone much sooner.
Of course that was the point when our genius Daniel finally decided to back him in the transfer market, and Poch duly spent 150m on absolute crap. Ndombelly alone probably cost the club £130m all in.
How many years did that summer set us back? Where would we be had we amicably parted ways with Poch after the final, brought in a proper DOF and attacking manager, and built for the future with a same style of football we'd been playing the preceding 5 years?
For the record I greatly respect Poch for what he did at the club and he's by far the best manager in my lifetime. Getting top 2-3 for all those years with practically zero net spend was miraculous and in my view one of the Prem's greatest ever achievements in coaching.
But the lesson here is that good things can go bad quickly, and when they do and it's clear the manager isn't stopping the rot it's usually better just ripping the bandage off and moving on rather than doubling down. Obviously there are the odd exception to this rule (lego-head being one) but how often in Prem history is a club rewarded for sticking with a manager through a horrible run? 9 times out of 10 it ends in tears.
As for Ange, we'll see. We're not quite in the late stage Poch era but there are certainly alarm bells ringing. Increasingly weird press conferences. Significant downtrend in performances. Five losses in six. Calling out the players and the fans. He'll be here at the start of next season come what may but I can't say I'm thrilled at the way things are going. Seen it with all too many managers before.
My champ man saves from back in the day would disagree but I digress, I'll take that as a no then?
Spot on.Exactly.
And fuck every cunt in here who keeps chirping ""Ange wants to win! You are just losers!" when the man himself has not been arsed about getting top 4 and has presided over a shit run of results and an absolutely pathetic set of results against our closest rivals.
In the cold light of day, this is all just deflection from an absolutely awful end to the season where a top 4 place was there for the taking, given the patchy form of Villa. It's not "changing the culture" or any bollocks like it, the culture is always good when these managers win a few games. As soon as the pressure comes, they look for anything to blame other than the way they set the team up.
Ange ain't the guy. I have done a 180 on him, I think we are just wasting time with him next season in the name of giving him a chance.
My champ man saves from back in the day would disagree but I digress, I'll take that as a no then?
Staking your whole claim on a twitter tactico and saying "I think this and he agrees" is a bit embarrassing mate, much better to point out stuff you yourself have seen if you can and better to not say anything if you can't.
Ffs we have hardly played any games. The players have had plenty of breaks and rest to get fit. They are all fit to me but the system and tactics is the issue.Of course the trajectory is going to change one of the big changes will be the fitness of Midfield.
As I stated earlier the problem with our second half of the season is tyhe injury problems in Midfield and Attack
Richarlison has been injured since his bright purple patch.
Bissouma had Malaria at the Afcon.
Pape came back from Afcon with a back injury.
Bentacur is still recovering from an ACL.
Maddison is still recovering from an ankle injury.
Los Celso gets injured every time he is asked to play more than 20 Minutes.
Solomon Dead.
Perisic tore his ACL
Werner Hamstring
Udogie Thigh
Sessegnon Dead
We have been plagued by injuries and illness but it is not always obvious.
Whats worse is that our system requires energy and pressing with matches longer than ever we do not have the squad for high energy off the ball pressing.
100% agree. I was in the south stand. Most people around me were cheering the team on.One of the main issues for me here... is that bar a small minority, fans in the stadium weren't "rooting" for Man City. They were just within themselves and unsure what to do because of the pretty horrible situation we were put in. The noise even increased when we were on the attack. Singing stand up if you hate Woolwich when the game was lost isn't rooting for the opposition.
However, because of this idea that's been pushed the last few days by the press, rival fans and even our own manager. It's become accepted fact now that 60,000 Spurs fans cheered City goals and did the Poznan. Which is slanderous. total. fucking. bullshit.
Couldn't disagree more re pensioners , they follow the club for decades, expect something in return, only for it to be snatched away, this from a club charging extortionate prices.Very true, except the pensioners part. Should pay the same as the rest (ex kids and youths)
But yes.
The thing is that actually over the past 10 years our average league position is good by historic Spurs standards (early 60s, 70s and 80s were the other good periods). But the lack of trophies is pathetic given how great our resources are (for which Levy does deserve credit).
But Levy deserves credit for the go carts and Beyoncé concerts right?Levy deserves credit for the business side of things, but well and all he has done there he has failed equally as much in the football side. Fans want success not gocarts , Beyonce concerts and hotels.
He’s a Coach with a career to build.
He’s not a forum shitposter that doesn’t study the game in the same way.
As a coach he’s being noticing all season that the system does get adjusted. Are you saying he’s wrong?
Or just your classic ad hominem tactics to discredit him instead of arguing with what he said?
Top Dad joke.
He gets credit when he business success translates into football success. No one cares about green energy awards or stadium of the year, it's league medals , fa cup trophy's etc that count. Until he manages to make his business acumen into on field success then he gets no credit from meBut Levy deserves credit for the go carts and Beyoncé concerts right?
He gets it, he doesn't agree with it. Move on.He now seems to get how many of us felt. Horrendous situation. Self made.
Let's snash Sheff Utd.
You've nailed it there brother.In 2 years time no one is going to remember the time Spurs lost to man city.. but in two years time everyone would have remembered for eternity the time we personally spit shined the premier league trophy for our archrivals.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-t0z2leCFQ
"I mean...we've lost 5 out of 6 games. I'm not going to come in here and be happy. Look, I'm hoping that you guys after a year with me have understood I am who I am. I can't hide who I am and what I believe. And if I'm not happy about something I'm going to say I'm not happy. We lost 5 out of 6 games. I'm gutted. I'm not going to walk into a press conference and paint a rosy picture...at least people know how I feel. But am I up for the fight? Absolutely, mate. I love it. This is why I've come here, and this ain't the last fight I'm going to have for sure"
Out of all the Ange quotes that we have gotten. This is up there as one of my favourites
Think Ange should let his talking be through the results on the park.
Spot on.
It'd be interesting to see the reaction if it's anything less than a mullering for Sheff U on Sunday with a clean sheet to boot.
Sums it up perfectly for the cultists. We scraped past them at home only for them to concede 8 the next week in their own gaff to Newcastle, god forbid holding this manager to some semblance of standards eh?No ones gonna give a shit if we win by 1 goal, or actually maybe the naysayers who are ready to pounce probably