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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Maybe he finds it relaxing to sit in a room for a few hours, watching a game he has no investment in, and talking Football with his peers.
Just because you'd do things differently, doesn't mean the same metric applies to him.
You literally come into this forum to talk Football with your peers in your free time. What gives you the right to suggest that he should be held to a different standard?
Yes.
He could have declined the offer.
"Applying a standard..."
I'm simply expecting a new manager, that has come to a club that has been in constant turmoil - and not done anything of real note in his first season - to reject other gigs...because, you know, he's got enough on his plate.
I don't care that he's sitting in a studio and 'that's all...blah, blah, blah'.
It's off-job and is a bad signal.
Others think it's fine.
I don't.
Your obsession with Shady is rather disturbing.Ol' slim shady in the bin....
Never mindShadydan
I'm sure it's only a perceived binning
Will give you more free time, you'll be cooking brudda
ok
Every time I read this thread
Season only ended 3 days ago....
I mean, you’d think it would get better now the season’s ended but it’s getting worse
I suggest you look up the definition of sought. Accepting is not seeking.
So, going back to my earlier question, what does he do when the vast majority of his players are away on international duty, train the cones?
I wonder what your reaction would be if someone random suggested to you that you MUST be ' consumed' by your job over anything else in your life?
I'll take a wild stab and guess your reaction would be to tell them to fuck right off.
The points tally would suggest not?
Seems we routinely beat the bottom 6 slightly less convincing against the middle pack (Wolves especially) and then really struggled against the sides around us.
Stinker wise I think we maybe had 5 really bad performances all season? Two against Wolves, Newcastle away, Fulham away Chelsea away. Obviously we lost other games but there was circumstances against us for them such as injuries sending offs or we just lost against the better side of the day without being terrible.
From watching us this season my take away has certainly been the tactics and style ain't the issue. It's been squad depth and quality. We lack cover for key positions like CAM, both full back positions and LW and ST to cover when we get injuries and to rotate out of form players. At least we lack cover to an acceptable standard of player (think Davies and Royal as cover for the fullbacks)
Then in other positions like RW CDM where we maybe on paper have cover we just have lacked actual quality there.
Big man has done enough to prove to me and I hope the board that he needs to be backed with depth and a sprinkling of quality this off season. Especially if we wanna compete on multiple fronts
Not really.
Agree in part but the data doesn't show the whole picture. We played 1st, 2nd 3rd 4th 6th and 7th in that last 11 games. The players although back in where for the most part not back to the same standards they where. Sarr and Maddison especially. Richy was a big part in the mid season mini revival and was injured again so we was playing without a striker for most of it.
And we also got injures to Undogie and Porro for parts of that two players that we simply don't have cover for.
Ange should of most certainly IMO adjusted for it but I suppose it being his first season he would have wanted to drill a system into them and try the players out in it, and see what they are made of.
From that I'd like to think he's clearly seen that a lot of them ain't up to it and hence the rumours of the mass outgoings. If this season will be used to get rid of players not good enough I'll take the short term pain. My fear is we do the usual spurs and keep hold of those players for far to long not wanting to take the hit on it
He could mug up on our history and learn why we don’t like Woolwich.
You’re obviously right. He can do what he wants. But, like
thinktank
, I didn’t like how he conducted himself in the last few weeks. Too much talking about how great he thinks he is. I don’t really want to see him chumming it up in the studio and being everyone’s best mate. It’s irritating. Anyway, as you say, he can obviously do what he wants.
I'm looking forward to hearing more from him.
You know we'll be linked to some players from teams he'll be watching. Perhaps we'll get some ITK from him on real time that Hercules will then dismiss as wrong!
Bring on the summer!
You know we'll be linked to some players from teams he'll be watching. Perhaps we'll get some ITK from him on real time that Hercules will then dismiss as wrong!
Bring on the summer!
After the last few weeks, I think he's FULLY aware of why we don't like the filth, but we've drawn a line under that and moved on haven't we?He could mug up on our history and learn why we don’t like Woolwich.
You’re obviously right. He can do what he wants. But, like
Anyway, as you say, he can obviously do what he wants.
I'm really not sure where you're getting this 'talking too much about how great he thinks he is.' Because he said he's used every formation there is? Because he'll never accept anything other than first place?
What you see as arrogance, I see as self belief. He has to change the culture of our club, he's not going to do that by downplaying himself. You want players to believe in your vision? First they have to believe in you. You don't do that by letting the media dictate the narrative, YOU dictate the narrative.
Do you reckon he'd be watching the Euro's on TV at home, if he wasn't watching the games in a studio?
Do you think he'd be analysing those games, from a professional perspective, when he's watching those games on his sofa?
I do, and I'm sure you do too.
And he's getting paid to do it as well!
State of some of the people in here.
Dude, chill!
It was only meant to be a light-hearted comment pointing out that listing in someone's achievements that they beat another team at their 6th attempt sounds a bit strange - I'm pretty sure Pep won't have it on his list of greatest PL achievements. 
But now you've actually explained what you mean it makes more sense - it was just a). a bizarre choice of example, and b). not explained at all. No biggie (and as I've said several times, I actually fully agree with your underlying sentiment). Apologies if I caused any offence.
Exactly.
A summer consumed in football, surrounded by football people, watching players in a transfer window...?
How could that possibly be a benefit?!
But he's got cones to coach...
That’s true.
I am acutely aware that some of my recent frustrations might be down to PTSD related to the Australian Cricket team. It was going to come out sooner rather than later.
To your point above, I just bristle at how everyone states Ange is a sporting level above us. I could stomach it with Jose and Conte, but Ange simply isn’t that level. And I’ve honestly never known any manager to gas themselves as much as this bloke. He’s like Rodgers on Clarky Cats.
But here’s the counter point - I don’t want him to have this pressure. I don’t think it’s down to him and him alone. I don’t think he can change our culture. It’s not his responsibility.
Anyway, fuck it. All besides the point. Let him enjoy the Euros. Just think the bloke is writing very, very large cheques with how he presents himself in the media.