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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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The problem is, it's been going tits up since game 11 of 2023.
Ange is a bad coach who doesn't know how to coach players into playing better. He doesn't know how to do any other tactic than his crap ange ball.
You seem to think we only have a real chance of winning if we are to start Romero and VdV together. And that we can only judge Ange off of those games. Well, actually it just a serves as a big control to show that Ange has NO effect on the squad whatsoever- he's apparently entirely incapable of winning games without those two playing together, and deserves no blame for doing it.
Basically you all are arguing he is powerless to do anything. You're all saying the only determinants of if we can be expected to be competitive is if we are playing with both Romero and VdV.
Well if that's true it means Ange has no capability to positively affect the team- the entire determinants of his success or not are if Romero and VdV can play together.
That's not coaching. We have better backup CBs that some Prem teams have starting CBs, and naive fans like yourself somehow have been conned into believing that we have no hope, and Ange no responsibility, if Romero and VdV can't play together.
It's a bullshit argument that completely infantilizes Ange even as you all think it saves him.
He played weakened teams it is there in black and white. Go back and look at the lineups in the league.
It's mad to me that you haven't even picked up on this when its fairly common knowledge and hardly a secret as the players and people close to the club have even said as much...
It's not cope at all. Take Saliba and Gabriel both out of Woolwich's lineup for half a season along with other key players and replace them with a bunch of kids that they bought in the summer for the future and they would be struggling as well.
The path was dictated to him by the injuries and he sacked off the league. It was a ballsy move, that could only really be justified as the bottom three were all but relegated by March. And it paid off.
I disagree- you're just giving him a free pass when he can't play those two.
Fulham have worse starting CBs than our backups. They took 4/6 from us this year.
This argument about him sacking off the league. How many games did he actually sack off? By which I mean clearly rotated players to prioritise the Europa.
West Ham away
Forest at home
Palace at home
Villa away
Brighton at home (we had already won the Europa at this point tbf)
So only really 4 matches.
I'm not sure I buy the argument that he downed tools since February.
West Ham away
Forest at home
Palace at home
Villa away
Brighton at home (we had already won the Europa at this point tbf)
So only really 4 matches.
I'm not sure I buy the argument that he downed tools since February.
Seems like you might be outing yourself a bit there.
We've won an FA Cup and 2 x League Cups since 1984. It is by no means "our first major piece of silverware since 1984"
And actually fucking won it.
If the board and Levy had their eyes on the league, he should be sacked at Feb.
What a ridiculous argument.
Why would you argue that with someone that is not advocating for keeping Ange?
Tactics don't suit our squad, doesn't speak English and never coached or played outside of Italy. This is fool's gold man, I'm telling you.
This would be Levy returning to his same old mistakes.
Thankfully I don't think for a second he'd take the job.
He played weakened teams because we had already been so bad in the league that we were left in no man's land. Let's not act like he made that decision out of choice, it was because we were already so crap that he saw the EL as by far the easiest way to achieve anything.
Not to mention, weakened teams shouldn't mean unable to beat Ipswich or Leicester.
They probably wouldn't finish anywhere near 17th.
Dictated to him by the injuries haha, jesus. We were awful in the league before injuries and we were awful at the end of last season without injuries. It was dictated to him by his own shoddy management skills, there was nothing "ballsy" about it, it was unprofessional bullshit based on utterly failing to compete against teams in England so throwing everything behind the Europa which was an easier target.
We wouldn't win CL with Inzaghi, but we'd be a lot more competitive in the PL with his tactics than Ange.
Here we go.
Was it only today that another report was put up that Romero would be inclined to stay but ONLY if AP stayed?
Has he got the hump because AP didn't take him on holiday with him?
This truly is the age of misinformation, yet despite constantly seeing that 99% of it is bullshit, there are still droves soaking it all up like a sponge.
He wasn't sacked because it would've meant Mason and the club for whatever reason wanted him to see out the season.
You don't keep a manager in charge due to a cup run, unless it's the champions league. We finished fucking 17th.
It's like asking an EX NFL player with chronic CTE why they enjoy drinking bleach and tasering themselves.
Whatever the answer is, it's bonkers, irrational and, quite simply put, WRONG.
Hey Simone, how would you feel about getting spanked by PSG for a 2nd straight match?
I'm not giving him a free pass. On the contrary he gets 10 games and he better be hovering around the top 6 or he has to go.
That's been my position all along, that's not a free pass.
Did Fulham have 20+ injuries? Did Fulham at one point have literally and entire first 11 in the physio room around the busiest time of the season? Did Fulham have to play an extra 15+ games in Europe? Plus go deep in the Carabao?
Why are you comparing us to Fulham? Did Fulham just win the 3rd most prestigious trophy on offer?
Did they fuck
Finally. Thank you.
Not good
Fulham took 4/6 points this season, with a much worse squad, worse funding, worse coach (apparently to some... lol), and they did it to who some of you have been calling "the champions of europe".
It's entirely a fair thing to compare us to.