But not never, right?
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But not never, right?
oh ffs... perhaps we keep Ange and wait until relegation happensDownplaying the Europa League win talking about match stats or opponents is not valid justification for sacking Ange.
League form is, if you priorise League position over winning trophies.
Well, PSG just won the CL playing high intensity football with an aggressive press and attacking full backs.
What a miracle all of their players hamstrings didn't explode mid game. Very irresponsible of their coach to ask them to sprint in a game.
You're a menaceWell, PSG just won the CL playing high intensity football with an aggressive press and attacking full backs.
What a miracle all of their players hamstrings didn't explode mid game. Very irresponsible of their coach to ask them to sprint in a game.
I remember when Poch first said it wasn't about winning trophies but being able to consistently put yourself in a position to win them that mattered.
Many were pissed at this because they seemed to think he was disrespecting the FA and League cups but I always agreed with him because cup runs are nice but league position is the true marker. I still generally agree with this BUT a European Trophy is a big fucking deal and if it comes at the cost of league position for one year I'm more than happy with it.
BTW: When Poch got us to the CL final it came on the back of an end of year collapse in league form that would carry on into the next season and get him sacked.
Also Poch's 11 was lightyears better than what we have now.
Well, PSG just won the CL playing high intensity football with an aggressive press and attacking full backs.
What a miracle all of their players hamstrings didn't explode mid game. Very irresponsible of their coach to ask them to sprint in a game.
Well I do remember results suffering in the end of CL final run. And start of next season. But compared to anything Ange has shown in last 50 games in EPL this was phenomenal league form still.
Under Poch since the end of Feb to end of season when we played in CL final we got 11 points from 12 games (winning 3 drawing 2).
Under Ange this season we got whopping 1 win and 2 draws. So 5 points from 12 games.
Regarding Poch 18-19 team - it literally featured Winks and Sissoko in midfield for the final vs Liverpool. Neither of them would be no better than 5th pick right now. On the attacking side - sure Kane, Son and Alli at that time were far better than what we have now. Fullbakcs - that seasons Rose and Trippier vs Porro-Udogie-Spence - around same-same. Central defense was far better then too. So agreed- he had better starting XI overall, but not as much better than some people make it out to look. Absolutely not "lightyears ahead".
Thanks for that night in Bilbao Ange, shame we never got a season 3 as we will never know what might have been!![]()
What's strange to me is that some people can't seem separate the enormous accomplishment of winning the EL and the decision of who is the best to manage us in 2025-26.
I am ecstatic that Ange brought us the trophy. No matter how it got done, it got done and I am forever grateful to him.
But, much like when a League 1 level striker helps get you promotion to the Championship, you still need to upgrade for the next season.
For 2025-26, we simply can't have the manager that couldn't handle both the PL and competing in a lower level European competition at the same time be the man at the helm for now doing the same thing but in a higher level competition. He may have been the best person for last season, but that in no way makes him the best person for the upcoming season. He's shown his limits and now we need to thank him and move forward, he's proven he can't do both. We're Tottenham, we should be competing everywhere.
Some "fans" still wouldn't accept they were wrong.oh ffs... perhaps we keep Ange and wait until relegation happens
Well I do remember results suffering in the end of CL final run. And start of next season. But compared to anything Ange has shown in last 50 games in EPL this was phenomenal league form still.
Under Poch since the end of Feb to end of season when we played in CL final we got 11 points from 12 games (winning 3 drawing 2).
Under Ange this season we got whopping 1 win and 2 draws. So 5 points from 12 games.
Regarding Poch 18-19 team - it literally featured Winks and Sissoko in midfield for the final vs Liverpool. Neither of them would be no better than 5th pick right now. On the attacking side - sure Kane, Son and Alli at that time were far better than what we have now. Fullbakcs - that seasons Rose and Trippier vs Porro-Udogie-Spence - around same-same. Central defense was far better then too. So agreed- he had better starting XI overall, but not as much better than some people make it out to look. Absolutely not "lightyears ahead".
What's strange to me is that some people can't seem separate the enormous accomplishment of winning the EL and the decision of who is the best to manage us in 2025-26.
I am ecstatic that Ange brought us the trophy. No matter how it got done, it got done and I am forever grateful to him.
But, much like when a League 1 level striker helps get you promotion to the Championship, you still need to upgrade for the next season.
For 2025-26, we simply can't have the manager that couldn't handle both the PL and competing in a lower level European competition at the same time be the man at the helm for now doing the same thing but in a higher level competition. He may have been the best person for last season, but that in no way makes him the best person for the upcoming season. He's shown his limits and now we need to thank him and move forward, he's proven he can't do both. We're Tottenham, we should be competing everywhere.
I would hope (possibly stupidly) that the decision was made weeks ago. We go one way if he wins the cup and another if we don’t. Or we are going in one direction, no matter what.it would t be surprising if we are still deciding, but it would be a disgrace if we are.The fact that the club have been weighing up this choice up until this point would indicate to me that they don't think it's a good reason.. They surely want to sack him otherwise you don't let the noise around his position and potential replacements fester like this. The thing that might save him is fear from them of a media shit storm and some fan backlash.
And call him a born winnerSome "fans" still wouldn't accept they were wrong.
We could break Derby's record of 11 points in a season and they'd still find a way to legitimize Ange as a coach.
Kane alone makes the gulf between the squads "lightyears". There are very very few players like him. Ever.
Think this is a very good analogy. The issue is the names we are being linked to don't scream "upgrade"... But at a club where Mourinho and Conte can't get a sniff out of Europe maybe there is no obvious "upgrade" and we go for potential?
And we were playing two legs against an Ajax team who battered the fuck out of Juventus and Real Madrid that year in Europe, not Bodo Glimt, so I'd expect our league form to suffer. Or you know, a 100 point City team instead of AZ fucking Alkmaar.
The idea we ever needed to throw away the league to beat these teams is absolutely terrifying. The games around Frankfurt maybe but holy shit we played some absolute garbage in the league and for most of the knockouts, let's be completely honest about this. AZ and Bodo would not stay in the premier league.
I would hope (possibly stupidly) that the decision was made weeks ago. We go one way if he wins the cup and another if we don’t. Or we are going in one direction, no matter what.it would t be surprising if we are still deciding, but it would be a disgrace if we are.
But let’s go with your thought that we are still making the decision. I’d be surprised if a fear of backlash was the only thing in the “pro” column. There must be more to it. What else could there be?
He’s goneDon't post stuff like this - it gets me all excited that the decision is made and its celebration time.
Still a chance he will fucking stay.