Érik Lamela

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You're giving Lamela goal scoring way too much credit.

Of the three, he's probably the worst finisher. Jury's still out on Bergwijn but I can't imagine him being worse than Lamela.
Just going on the numbers Moura is easily the best of the 3, but I think that the problem is the one the other poster raised ... Lamela can't seem to stay fit.
 
Both Lamela and Moura should be sold as soon as possible but as mentioned above Lamela provides something, pressing ability, off the bench while Moura offers nothing. Combine that with his injury history he is likely harder to move so if we are keeping one, Lamela makes a lot more sense to keep over Moura.

But in reality they are both guys we desperately need to upgrade.
 
He’s still always available though. I’d rather have players who are always available and give 100% effort than a player who is available 60% of the time.

Lucas receives way too much hate from Spurs fans.

Available 100% and tries hard but does nothing. This isn't youth soccer, trying hard is nice but we need actual talent not just good efforts.

Lucas has shown over his time here that he is not close to good enough and yet he is constantly defended largely based on one game. He gets way more credit and defending from Spurs fans than he deserves. That was a great night but we cannot keep guys who do not contribute and are not good enough because they had one good game in their 80+ games with the club.
 
Available 100% and tries hard but does nothing. This isn't youth soccer, trying hard is nice but we need actual talent not just good efforts.

Lucas has shown over his time here that he is not close to good enough and yet he is constantly defended largely based on one game. He gets way more credit and defending from Spurs fans than he deserves. That was a great night but we cannot keep guys who do not contribute and are not good enough because they had one good game in their 80+ games with the club.
You could make the same argument for Lamela, Winks, Davies, Dele and others. We can’t have a squad of world class players unfortunately.

I’m not saying I want Lucas over anyone. I’m saying I’ll take him over Lamela because he’s at least going to be available.
 
You could make the same argument for Lamela, Winks, Davies, Dele and others. We can’t have a squad of world class players unfortunately.

I’m not saying I want Lucas over anyone. I’m saying I’ll take him over Lamela because he’s at least going to be available.

I would agree on most of the guys you listed. Which is why a team needs to rotate out guys that are no longer contributing.

It doesn't have to be world class players, but guys who can contribute would be nice. There are plenty of guys who are not world class but still can help a team out.

Moura could have easily been replaced by guys who would help this team out in many different ways and aren't world class.
 
No matter how little Lucas contributes, it is still worth more than the zero contribution from Lamela who spends so much time with the doctors that he should have graduated med school

I have advocated for moving on from Lamela as well.

It is possible for wanting to sell both.

I have already said the reason I keep Lamela if it is an either or proposition is that a. with his injury history likely that moving Lamela would be tough and b. he is effective at pressing. So he has something, as limited as it is that he can do.

Moura offers nothing. He is terrible with the ball at his feet, he isn't good defensively, he is not effective at pressing and more often than not he kills our attacking play.
 
What are you keeping in Lamela when is almost never available? There is nothing to keep.

Moura offers something no matter how little else he wont be playing in games. A player that offers nothing will not get 35 NT caps in a country like Brazil.

Lucas Moura has 4 appearances for Brazil since 2013, that is even less relevant than his one night in Amsterdam.

Again get rid of Lamela as well, you keep trying to spin it back to him does nothing to change the fact that Moura should be gone.

Personally Lamela not being available and Moura sucks is the same thing to me, I don't either on the field, so Lamela being injured doesn't hurt him at all.
 
He’s still always available though. I’d rather have players who are always available and give 100% effort than a player who is available 60% of the time.

Lucas receives way too much hate from Spurs fans.
I'd get rid of both of them and get someone who stays fit and does more than run into the nearest player.
 
Just going on the numbers Moura is easily the best of the 3, but I think that the problem is the one the other poster raised ... Lamela can't seem to stay fit.
The conundrum with Lamela is, has his nagging injuries sort of helped people's view of him? Would he still be here if not for his constant injuries? Would he have gone to Marseille, back to Roma or Argentina?
 
Anyone else completely done with Lamela now?

He generally gets a free pass because he looks busy off the ball.

When he has the ball he just runs with it and plays like he’s staring at the floor
Yes I am. I always thought he was a quality player who has bad luck with injuries and works his socks off on the pitch but last night was another example of his limitations. Takes up great positions and two things happen , one he runs with the ball into an opposing player after delaying the pass, two, he miscontrols the ball and puts in a last ditch tackle to retrieve possession.

His work rate is still there but with zero end product we might as well pick a spurs fan with good fitness as the performance would be the same
 
get this fucking wage stealing Covid rule breaking cunt out of our club! would rather give a youth player a chance than relying on Lamela to be fit when you need him!
 
It's always just about how long he lasts before he gets injured. I believe he offers alot to the side with his energy and intent but it's always a question of how long do we get before his body breaks down again which is a shame. I love his intensity and desire.
 
Him refusing to pass to put Son through on goal is why I think he is too much of a liability to start. Would love to see him as an impact sub though.

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The endless Lamela cycle, as predictable as the water cycle.

Lamela starts and Lamela is shit and everyone agrees it's time to sell him.
Lamela gets a muscle injury and disappears for weeks and everyone forgets about Lamela.
Lamela returns from and injury and people say it will be like a new signing.
He comes on as sub in a game we are losing and looks quite stylish doing nothing. "He must start the next game!" The people say.
Lamela starts and Lamela is shit and everyone agrees it's time to sell him.
Would like this to be pinned in the "Universal truth that we all know - but can't show to outsiders" vault.
Admin Admin - we all know it exists (Soldado surely lives there).

How can we possibly be the most green club (as pointed out by Jenny Talia Jenny Talia ) with all the rivers of paperwork that come with Eric playing?
 
I still can't actually believe we have the same conversations about Lamela.

I still can't believe in the time Erik Lamela has been at the club, Gareth Bale, went to Real Madrid and won four Champions League titles, 2 La Liga's (probably more trophies too) and then returned to the club on loan. It's bonkers.

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