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Player Adama Traore
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Which has been our problem since 2015.
Traore would start for us - don't be silly
It's not entirely true that we do not buy to improve our first 11. Royal, Reggie, Holjberg, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Sanchez, Romero - All brought for the first 11.
The issue has always been with attacking players. We aren't replacing Son and Kane; and it is difficult to find a player that offers more that Moura.
Our front 3 has gone stale, and is predictable and easy to defend against. If Traore can inject some speed, muscle and steam roll the ball forward, I'm all for it.
I disagree that any of those names mentioned are better than Walker, Rose, toby, Jan, Eriksen, Wanyama and Dembele.
Depends on the price. If we can get him for less than £15 plus Doc I’m ok with that. Any more and I think we could spend the money better elsewhere.
I think you have your timeline mixed up
Royal replaced Aurier
Reggie replaced Davies
Romero replaced Toby
Sanchez replaced Fazio/Wimmer
Ndombele replaced Sissoko
Lo Celso replaced Eriksen
Holjberg replaced Winks
So, over the past couple of seasons, we have made some upgrades - the obvious failures being Lo Celso and Ndombele; leaving us short of creativity.
Not really. I think you are moving puzzle pieces around to suit your thinking. Regardless of "who replaced who" technically, none of the players that have been part of our recruitment process are better than the players that preceded them.
And since you are being pedantic, Davies was our Rose back up that became first choice when Rose left. He's still there, in a different role. Reggie was signed as first choice left back. He's not better than prime Rose.
Aurier was signed as a first choice right back. He's not better than prime Walker. Royal despite his energy has not shown to be better than Aurier yet, despite being better defensively.
Romero has shown none of his Serie A form and is way short of prime Toby. You omitted a Jan replacement.
Sanchez was signed for competition in the team and despite arguably being our best CB in recent weeks was way short of value.
On no planet was Ndombele signed to be Sissoko's replacement. Especially when Sissoko was still here and playing more games. He only left last window.
Lo Celso was signed to replace Eriksen. He has not.
Hoijberg was signed as a DM. Winks was playing there, you are right. But that's because we never replaced the Dembele/Wanyama axis.
So again. Everyone we have signed for the first team has not improved anyone that was already here. Save maybe Lucas.
I think you have your understanding of what constitutes a competent first team player mixed up. We have not replaced those players adequately, however you want to dress it up.
But...but...but....
HE RUNS!!
He might not be able to score to save his life - 7 goals in 158 EPL matches
He might not have the ability to pick out and deliver dangerous balls to teammates - 16 assists in 158 EPL matches
But HE RUNS and HE DRIBBLES.
What happens after - either he runs out of pitch, misplaces pass/cross, skies ball 20 meters above goal - that does not matter.
But HE RUNS and HE DRIBBLES and HE IS STRONG.
And that is all what matters, don't you know
?!?Of course not.
It is about running, dribbling and strenght.
Usually just bunch of old guys sit down at the end of 90 mins and decide who ran and dribbled more powerfully!
Aint it obvious!
Added this on the other thread, but will post it here as well...
Two main things I've heard about Traore fans is "his output is poor, but if he would play with Spurs front line, it would improve" and "he is good at dribbling and progressing the ball"...
Well - prior to signing with us, Moussa Sissoko had either scored or assisted a goal for Newcastle in EPL for every 370 minutes. Traore's same stat is goal or assist for 386 minutes of EPL football. So yea, precedent of bringing physically strong but without footballing brain player to Spurs is really wonderful.
Also his dribbling and ball progression abilities were also so damn crutial and useful for the Spurs, right? A true superstar attacker he was...
Two main things I've heard about Traore fans is "his output is poor, but if he would play with Spurs front line, it would improve" and "he is good at dribbling and progressing the ball"...
Well - prior to signing with us, Moussa Sissoko had either scored or assisted a goal for Newcastle in EPL for every 370 minutes. Traore's same stat is goal or assist for 386 minutes of EPL football. So yea, precedent of bringing physically strong but without footballing brain player to Spurs is really wonderful.
Also his dribbling and ball progression abilities were also so damn crutial and useful for the Spurs, right? A true superstar attacker he was...
Well done on bringing up goals and assists to completely miss the fucking point again and comparing him to Sissoko.
Yea, totally different things...
Both rather fast and strong (though Traore stronger of the two I agree),
Both of theirs most notable attribute is "running with the ball",
Both play in weaker teams in EPL for years,
Both 26 in time of the transfer or potential transfer,
Both lack footballing brain to make a decision,
Both poor in executing their chances,
Sissoko was AM player before he joined us, the fact he was turned to CM later does not change that fact.
But of course it is not similar at all... cause one's name is Sissoko and other is Traore... so they are not the same person so that means there can be no parallels or similarities between them, right?
I think it's more that we are done with strong atheletes that can get the ball down the end of the pitch without it being any real benefit.
We need players that will actually improve the team. If Traore was so good, Wolves would be better and better teams than us would be courting him.
Spurs will have the chance to sign Adama Traore for cut-priced £20m'
Tottenham will reportedly have the opportunity to sign Adama Traore from Wolves for £20million in the January transfer window as Bruno Lage looks to raise some funds.
20m is a pisstake considering what we paid for frauds like Bergwijn
£14.99?
Who are you, Mr Byrite?
Or Mr Levy.