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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Cups are just a crapshoot.

Credit to ange and I think many of you were out of line calling him a fat cunt all the time but I don’t have faith he can make this a consistent top club.
The modern fan hey? / I’ve been invested in this club for over 50 years many highs and many lows being in Bilbao with my sons is right up there with the highest of the highs - whatever the standard whatever the opposition we won the Europa league and I was there and thank you Ange you delivered what so called elite managers poch conte and mourinho couldn’t do I will be forever grateful cheers mate
 
No offence mate but your agenda is boring, I've been a long time lurker of this forum and i've decided to sign up and post tonight solely because I'm sick of you stinking up this thread with your arrogant negativity.

You don't rate the Europa league and you never have, you've been downplaying our European run for months in this thread and I'm convinced you haven't even celebrated our greatest night in 17 years because all of your posts have been about how we only faced rubbish opposition.

The fact is Ange has won a major European trophy and in 40 years time nobody will give a damn that we finished `17th in the league, he won us our first trophy in 17 years and our first European trophy in 41 years, all the years of mockery from our rivals ended as soon as we lifted that trophy. That achievement of winning a trophy and securing champions league football + bragging rights over our rivals is superior to securing champions league football and winning no trophies.

There are also 2 mitigating circumstances that you refuse to acknowledge. The first is how many managers would recover from losing one of the best players of all time (Kane) in their first season of managing the club, a player that our whole club had been built around, not to mention losing an inform Son .. not many managers would recover from this. Can you imagine Poch Conte and Mourinho without Kane?

Secondly.. October to December we were decimated with injuries and from January to may Ange clearly calculated that winning the league was out of the equation and we needed to win a trophy so he put all his eggs into the European basket and the players clearly bought into that vision as well. They took a risk and it paid off massively but this whole lost 21 games nonsense doesn't even take into account that simple fact that the players didn't give a damn about winning a few pointless premier league games when the European trophy was there to be captured.
I refuse to hold that decision against the gaffer because it paid off.. He deserves the chance to bring in quality players and build a legacy, he is the man to take us forward and I fully believe that. I don't like the fact that you and other posters on here almost bully people who dare to hold this opinion.
Morgan Freeman Applause GIF by The Academy Awards
 
I've never been fully in on the Paratici train but if he makes that decision I'll love and respect him for life.

A thank you note and a bullet to the head. Mafioso style, no being clouded by emotions.
Wow. What pathetic shit. Ange just won us the Europa title, 41 years since we won one and 17 years since we last won a silverware, and you were bashing him and downplaying the achievement non-stop.

Yet you could adore Paratici for life just because he could sack Ange, despite the credentials above? Get your shit together and maintain some respect, not just for Ange, but at least for our club - you are making the club and the board to be such small-time pricks. Levy and Co are hated much, but they are still much bigger than that.

You have embarrassed yourself enough before the final. Stick your hatred for Ange elsewhere in the multiverse and stop tainting posters here and our club with such toxic agenda.
 

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Sweet tribute video put together by South Melbourne FC, a club founded by Greek immigrants. Bloke had a banger in his locker.

As far as his tenure goes, I think the Europa win is a fitting end to his time here. For someone who evokes such passion and respect for the game, I've felt little of that in watching many of our performances under Ange. The league form has been inexcusably poor: disorganised, predictable, and often mundane. Adaptations to game state, such as substitutions, have been baffling. And his cobbled-together backroom staff (Chris Davies aside) was a massive red flag too.

Perhaps there's something to be said for the state of Prem football, too, for its lack of flair and instinct. Most games are such a dull and rudimentary watch now.

Shed a tear or 50 over the last 24h, tho, and for that I'll always be grateful to Ange. You bloody went and did it.
 
Bodo would be relegated, Alkmaar probably too. Frankfurt would be battling with Fulham and Brighton, they were a decent scalp as we've struggled against that calibre of side in the league all year long. You can track this stuff pretty easily just looking at wage/transfer budgets. Frankfurt's is just over half that of Bournemouth, you can add "tax" on to that as premier league sides pay more for the same quality due to their wealth, but it paints a picture.

When it comes to the CL the gap is much smaller as Bayern, Madrid etc are all independently incredibly wealthy. But when we get to mid-table or even bottom half Prem clubs, these are equivalent in quality across the board to the top 4/6 of Europe mostly. There are some exceptions - last year Leverkusen vs Atalanta was a genuinely quality match up - but this was not a quality year.

The issue is that generally Prem clubs in Europe fall in to a trap of fighting on all fronts. From the knockouts its clear we made it our everything, and quality wise we smoke Bodo, AZ etc by many levels. So it was just about getting past Frankfurt and beating United in a final. Which they did, job done.

Conference league wise its so laughable it isn't even funny. Chelsea can play their entire 2nd or even 3rd string and win 4-0 - prem clubs shouldn't be allowed in it.

Frankfurt are in the CL next year LoL
 
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It blows my mind that some fans are still questioning Ange.


He didn’t chase the sugar hit of a few league wins to save his job — he risked it all to deliver a trophy. And he delivered. That’s 8 wins from 9 finals. A proven winner.


Yes, we finished 17th. But context matters. The club was hammered by injuries from December onwards — and crucially, they didn’t back him with proper depth. We had Archie Gray, a midfielder, playing at centre-back. Ange turned it into a development masterclass. Gray stepped up. Spence made big strides. Bergvall became a serious player. By the end, even Odebert looked like a weapon.


Then, when key players were fit again, Ange didn’t take shortcuts. He could have thrown Van de Ven and Romero back in between February and May. That probably nets us 15 extra points and a much stronger league finish. No injury crisis at all? We’re likely 10 points better off — easily top 5, maybe higher.


But he didn’t go for the safe option. He kept his eye on the big prize — and won it.


Looking ahead, it’s simple: without serious investment in the squad, next season will be brutal no matter who’s in charge. Balancing midweek and weekend football isn’t possible with Danso, Werner, Reguilón, and a bunch of kids as your “depth.”


Let’s be honest — it shouldn’t be Spurs thinking about sacking Ange. Ange should sack Spurs. He deserves a club that gives him the tools to match the expectations placed on him. He’s proven he’s capable. But he can’t carry this club!!
 
No offence mate but your agenda is boring, I've been a long time lurker of this forum and i've decided to sign up and post tonight solely because I'm sick of you stinking up this thread with your arrogant negativity.

You don't rate the Europa league and you never have, you've been downplaying our European run for months in this thread and I'm convinced you haven't even celebrated our greatest night in 17 years because all of your posts have been about how we only faced rubbish opposition.

The fact is Ange has won a major European trophy and in 40 years time nobody will give a damn that we finished `17th in the league, he won us our first trophy in 17 years and our first European trophy in 41 years, all the years of mockery from our rivals ended as soon as we lifted that trophy. That achievement of winning a trophy and securing champions league football + bragging rights over our rivals is superior to securing champions league football and winning no trophies.

There are also 2 mitigating circumstances that you refuse to acknowledge. The first is how many managers would recover from losing one of the best players of all time (Kane) in their first season of managing the club, a player that our whole club had been built around, not to mention losing an inform Son .. not many managers would recover from this. Can you imagine Poch Conte and Mourinho without Kane?

Secondly.. October to December we were decimated with injuries and from January to may Ange clearly calculated that winning the league was out of the equation and we needed to win a trophy so he put all his eggs into the European basket and the players clearly bought into that vision as well. They took a risk and it paid off massively but this whole lost 21 games nonsense doesn't even take into account that simple fact that the players didn't give a damn about winning a few pointless premier league games when the European trophy was there to be captured.
I refuse to hold that decision against the gaffer because it paid off.. He deserves the chance to bring in quality players and build a legacy, he is the man to take us forward and I fully believe that. I don't like the fact that you and other posters on here almost bully people who dare to hold this opinion.
So you want Ange to stay, I guess. Do you see any progress during his time at the club? He won a title, yes. I can accept and love that, but I don't know if it was thanks to Ange or despite of him. Of course he's spinning the "Given up the league, going for the title" story. Strangely, he never mentioned it until after the final.

I think he's a shit manager and as close to Donald Trump personality as you can get.

In two seasons he hasn't been able to install the smallest resemblance of a style of play that is effective in the league. And in the winning run in the Europa League, he had to revert to Mourinho-ball in order to win. Will he ditch the positive playing style next season and become the Australian Mouringho? Because clearly his preferred style of play doesn't work. 21 league losses, and counting in one season is the worst record in Tottenham history,

I think it's time for a change. Replace him now or after the last game, hopefully in a few days time we can have some new hope and keep building on the squad change. Hopefully not only with 19 year old prospects.
 
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The modern fan hey? / I’ve been invested in this club for over 50 years many highs and many lows being in Bilbao with my sons is right up there with the highest of the highs - whatever the standard whatever the opposition we won the Europa league and I was there and thank you Ange you delivered what so called elite managers poch conte and mourinho couldn’t do I will be forever grateful cheers mate

Well said mate.

in the players pressers yesterday, all of the ones interviewed in their own way referred to the Spursy tag hopefully shutting a few up. Danso, Mickey, Vic in particular.

Lifting that cup meant the world to them and millions around the globe.
 
Bodo would be relegated
Would you say the same about Porto? How about Besiktas? Tewnte? Olympiakos? Lazio? Bodo beat them all on the way to the Semi Final.

Premier League fans have a weird superiority complex - just because they have the most money. That doesn't go well to explain why in the last 41 years, since Spurs won it - English have won it 4 times (Liverpool, Chelsea x 2, United).
 
Bodo away was the arguably the most impressive win of the campaign, they have a formidable home record, everyone that goes there struggles as the match descends into ice hockey essentially, we went there and brushed them aside with minimal fuss. You could say since Frankfurt the team was really locked in for the remainder of the tournament, Ange got it tactically right all the way to the end.
 
That magical evening in Bilbao is one of the greatest nights I’ve experienced in over fifty years of following Tottenham. We are staying in Santander and bumped into many fellow Spurs yesterday. The general feeling on the ground appears to be that, having won the trophy, Ange should be allowed to continue. Imo this would be a massive mistake, we follow the team home and away and they really do look like an extremely poorly coached side. I can’t see that changing if Ange is allowed to stay.
But whatever transpires we will continue to be right behind the team at all times.COYS.
 
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