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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Funny isn't it. There's a few different types of fans on here:

- Fans that want us to lose because they hate Ange

- Fans that want us to win, but when we do they make excuses for it (opposition were weak, had injuries etc.) Because they hate Ange

- Fans that want us to win, but when we do make statements about it 'being in spite of Ange', 'the players won that, not Ange' - Because they hate Ange

- Then there's the fans that analyse the performance and acknowledge that Ange may have got that one right. Even in the horror season we've had, and even if they dislike him, he may deserve credit for getting that one right at least.
(These people are labelled rats for taking a analytical view instead of an over-emotional, spiteful one)

I am Ange out btw, but I hope we win the EL, and if we do because of his tactical decisions then I'll certainly give him the acknowledgement he would deserve.
We probably need to take into account that this wasn’t Bodo at full strength, and they were away at one of the best stadiums in Europe against an incredibly wealthy team and the intimidation that may bring and that - despite that - we somehow let a goal in and had two key players (Solanke, Madders) come away with injuries.

I really hope we win the whole lot - and comfortably - and I don’t really care who the coach is, I just want to feel like we might do okay in most games and not concede a boatload of goals at any given time.

TLDR - Cool - we won- Bodo had half a team and were away - still scored - Bodo reserves aren’t all that.
 
IF he wins and stays on, he’ll be gone before Christmas if there’s any sign of a similar season and any available ‘steady hand’ brought in, whatever the cost (see Redknapp, Conte). No way this happens for a second consecutive season - especially not if Fabio IS back whispering sweet nothings to DL.
He wont be staying. He knows it. Every utterance he makes is for his next job not for this one. The club are going to lose £30m from finishing 16th or 17th instead of 5th or 6th, the constant injuries to players, the spats with the fans, likely our record number of league defeats in a season and worst league position in 48 years. Its gone way past the point of no return. Beating AZ, Frankfurt, Bodo and Man U isnt going to change anything ( if we do which is dubious). Add in Vinai and Paratci wanting their own man. No idea how good they'll be but they strike me as professional at the very least, it wont be wet wipes like Munn and Lange who have handled this like rabbits in headlights.
 
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Funny isn't it. There's a few different types of fans on here:

- Fans that want us to lose because they hate Ange

- Fans that want us to win, but when we do they make excuses for it (opposition were weak, had injuries etc.) Because they hate Ange

- Fans that want us to win, but when we do make statements about it 'being in spite of Ange', 'the players won that, not Ange' - Because they hate Ange

- Then there's the fans that analyse the performance and acknowledge that Ange may have got that one right. Even in the horror season we've had, and even if they dislike him, he may deserve credit for getting that one right at least.
(These people are labelled rats for taking a analytical view instead of an over-emotional, spiteful one)

I am Ange out btw, but I hope we win the EL, and if we do because of his tactical decisions then I'll certainly give him the acknowledgement he would deserve.
Totally

The amount of people when the team sheet was announced that still wanted Spence (despite him being totally out of form) rather than Udogie or Porto who happened to be just about our best 2 on the night
The amount of people that didn’t want Johnson playing, they were shut up after 40 seconds
The amount that didn’t want Richarlison starting and thought we were playing 442, well fans were wrong on that also.

Ange has been dreadful this season, should have been out of a job months ago, but on Thursday he got it right and a lot of our “supporters”, a term I use in a very loose sense, because they really aren’t, had eggs on their faces but will never admit it, and it will always be other reasons why we won.
 
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Said months ago had feeling would win EL...like Ange and listening to players they still think he's good manager...he's made mistakes and wouldn't surprise me if got sack but new manager, same players, same board, same chairman...can't be anywhere near position in league again but I would stick and give one more chance
Ange? Is that you?
 
He wont be staying. He knows it. Every utterance he makes is for his next job not for this one. The club are going to lose £30m from finishing 16th or 17th instead of 5th or 6th, the constant injuries to players, the spats with the fans, likely our record number of league defeats in a season and worst league position in 48 years. It’s gone way past the point of no return. Beating AZ, Frankfurt, Bodo and Man U isnt going to change anything ( if we do which is dubious). Add in Vinai and Paratci wanting their own man. No idea how good they'll be but they strike me as professional at the very least, it wont be wet wipes likes Munn and Lange who have handled this like rabbits in headlights.
100% on both points

Lange and Mann have been disastrous. Weak yes men, need strong, decisive characters to counter the meek, snivelling rat at the top
 
Funny isn't it. There's a few different types of fans on here:

- Fans that want us to lose because they hate Ange

- Fans that want us to win, but when we do they make excuses for it (opposition were weak, had injuries etc.) Because they hate Ange

- Fans that want us to win, but when we do make statements about it 'being in spite of Ange', 'the players won that, not Ange' - Because they hate Ange

- Then there's the fans that analyse the performance and acknowledge that Ange may have got that one right. Even in the horror season we've had, and even if they dislike him, he may deserve credit for getting that one right at least.
(These people are labelled rats for taking a analytical view instead of an over-emotional, spiteful one)

I am Ange out btw, but I hope we win the EL, and if we do because of his tactical decisions then I'll certainly give him the acknowledgement he would deserve.

It's sad that people can't enjoy a win and letting their agendas dictate their feelings.

I really wonder if people will be happy if we win this comp or pissed off that Ange has managed to prove them wrong...people who put their whole ego before the club they claim to support STINK
 
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Too much risk of getting absolutely hammered week-in, week-out in CL and the loss of revenue from that. Levy’s gambled loss of Prem revenue against CL qualification money this year. If he stays and there’s any signs of the fuck-ups carrying on, he’ll be gone - probably by first international break.
Agree

I would tend to side with Ange67 if there had been an uptick in the PL post injuries, but there hasn’t. Our attacking play has dried up and still very easy to score against
 
He wont be staying. He knows it. Every utterance he makes is for his next job not for this one. The club are going to lose £30m from finishing 16th or 17th instead of 5th or 6th, the constant injuries to players, the spats with the fans, likely our record number of league defeats in a season and worst league position in 48 years. Its gone way past the point of no return. Beating AZ, Frankfurt, Bodo and Man U isnt going to change anything ( if we do which is dubious). Add in Vinai and Paratci wanting their own man. No idea how good they'll be but they strike me as professional at the very least, it wont be wet wipes likes Munn and Lange who have handled this like rabbits in headlights.
I hope so- it’s just there’ll be a lot of pressure to hold onto him on the off-chance he wins the EL. I can’t really see what spin you can put on removing a coach who has won the first major trophy in a long time (this is much more than the LC).

I hope I’m wrong and they’re a mutual parting of the ways and a reset over summer. But, you know…been supporting us since the ‘80s so we’ve been through a lot!
 
I hope so- it’s just there’ll be a lot of pressure to hold onto him on the off-chance he wins the EL. I can’t really see what spin you can put on removing a coach who has won the first major trophy in a long time (this is much more than the LC).

I hope I’m wrong and they’re a mutual parting of the ways and a reset over summer. But, you know…been supporting us since the ‘80s so we’ve been through a lot!
If we win it will be dressed up as mutual consent. Even he'd know its the best time to get out of here if he wants another half decent job. I'm not even sure if he wants to be here anymore. If he stayed then the writings on the wall the moment we lose 2 or 3 on the trot, which given our form over the last 15 months would probably be in September. He wont have Munn protecting him this time.
 
This is ridiculous sorry, because last night everyone was ready to jump on him due to his "weird" team selection in which he clearly planned for Bodo which was to physically out do them and it worked, that's not on the players...they didn't pick the team, the manager did.

You can want the manage gone but acknowledge that he's not a good coach and not right for the club...you're allowed to hold two schools of thought.it's okay.

Let’s be fair in our appraisal just like our with our criticism.
I gave ange big credit for Frankfurt away, but bodo home game it really wasn’t some tactical masterclass to start Richarlison lol. Any combination of forwards he selected in that game would have got the job done against that bodo side. Our team is just that much better than theirs, might be harsh but I actually think we could of completely killed the tie that night.
 
I gave ange big credit for Frankfurt away, but bodo home game it really wasn’t some tactical masterclass to start Richarlison lol. Any combination of forwards he selected in that game would have got the job done against that bodo side. Our team is just that much better than theirs, might be harsh but I actually think we could of completely killed the tie that night.

I'd be shocked to think if anyone thought it was some sort of 'tactical masterclass' the point is that just give credit where it's due...it's embarrassing people going on about the players winning in spite of the manager...you can say winning the match was a collective achievement and leave it at that.
 
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Agree with almost everyone that shocking this season in league...also agree if out of all cups and current league position time to go but its not...needs to win EL then deserves chance first few games next season...if doesnt then time to go...changing manager every few years doesn't work...no trophys but same time only so many chances he can get?
 
No, if he wins the cup he deserves his part of the credit for it in the same way he deserves all the criticism he gets for the league campaign.

However there is no world in which he should be here next season, if he is, it just writes next season off from the beginning. Him winning the EL and then a mutual separation is the best result for him, for us, and for everyone involved in the club.

People just need to enjoy us being close to winning a trophy again, the rest will all sort itself out at the end of the season. Every conversation here is ending up as people doing negative mental gymnastics whilst arguing with self confessed trolls - it’s easier when you just step away a bit and enjoy the fact that we might be on the verge of some much needed success, regardless of how you rate that level of success.
 
Gonna just say it ... Everything he SAYS here has an element of truth about it....

Sadly, everything we DO just proves further that everything he says is true!

We did fear the worst when they scored, cos that's happened before, and it's gone badly ..

But being bullishly confident despite that has an air of arrogance about it that just doesn't fit with a Spurs fans DNA...
save the y arrogance for Gooners...

Or maybe That's THE POINT?
A bit of arrogance does sew the seed of doubt in the OPPOSITION minds.. like we're NOT gonna let one singlle goal ruin a memorable exceptional night!

...and fuck it, Ii won't... It WON'T ruin the night,
It coulda finished 3-0 and they just scored that goal 1st minute of the 2nd leg and we'd be in the same position as we are now...
They got their consolation in early, that's all!

It's MIND games... And that works BOTH ways!

I've said before, but as and when Ange leaves ( genuinely think he should be found a role in the club as a motivational speaker or mentality coach... Cos the modern players seem to love a bit of all that!!!!

I'm almost serious!

Levy = Great businessman, lousy at football
Ange = Great Speaker, lousy at the football bit!

There's a pattern emerging.
 
It's sad that people can't enjoy a win and letting their agendas dictate their feelings.

I really wonder if people will be happy if we win this comp or pissed off that Ange has managed to prove them wrong...people who put their whole before the club they claim to support STINK
I'd say a percentage will be seriously pissed off if it happens and we won it under Ange. The agenda will be that it's 'only' a second rate comp, the teams in it are weak, and top 4 is the bigger priority.

Ange will go, and 6 months later they'll be calling for Levy's head because we've only won 1 trophy in 17 years....
 
Gonna just say it ... Everything he SAYS here has an element of truth about it....

Sadly, everything we DO just proves further that everything he says is true!

We did fear the worst when they scored, cos that's happened before, and it's gone badly ..

But being bullishly confident despite that has an air of arrogance about it that just doesn't fit with a Spurs fans DNA...
save the y arrogance for Gooners...

Or maybe That's THE POINT?
A bit of arrogance does sew the seed of doubt in the OPPOSITION minds.. like we're NOT gonna let one singlle goal ruin a memorable exceptional night!

...and fuck it, Ii won't... It WON'T ruin the night,
It coulda finished 3-0 and they just scored that goal 1st minute of the 2nd leg and we'd be in the same position as we are now...
They got their consolation in early, that's all!

It's MIND games... And that works BOTH ways!

I've said before, but as and when Ange leaves ( genuinely think he should be found a role in the club as a motivational speaker or mentality coach... Cos the modern players seem to love a bit of all that!!!!

I'm almost serious!

Levy = Great businessman, lousy at football
Ange = Great Speaker, lousy at the football bit!

There's a pattern emerging.

Pretty much what I've always said


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