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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
Aussie Yid in London said:
Sorry mate, this is pure loser mentality.

You’re first or you’re last Ricky Bobby. The team has tasted first and that will influence their mentality a shit old more than losing the CL final in 2019 did.

Are you genuinely telling me you felt the club accomplished more after losing the final in 2019 than last night?

That is deadset insane to me.
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I'd say last night was bigger, we were already in the Top 4 when we lost the CL final, European football was already secured, last night we were sat 17th in the league, looking down the barrells of our worst premier league campaign ever, the only thing that would save it was by winning, last night was absolutely massive!!!!
 
Aussie Yid in London said:
He’s clearly a troll who thinks the Europa League is equivalent of a League Cup.

Either that, or an imbecile.
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He's talking nonsense, most PL manages put a second choice XI in League Cup nobody targets the League Cup at the start of a season as a potential prize.
With CL qualification the prize the Europa League is a serious competition, Crystal Palace have never threatened to make the CL places in the PL in my memory but next season they have a chance of a route into CL by winning the Europa and judging by the way they have played recently they could do well in the competition.
 
Juno said:
I can’t help thinking back to the last manager who delivered us a trophy Juande Ramos in the League Cup in 2008. Even at the end of that season when he had only taken over in October from Martin Jol, there were rumblings as to whether he was the right man. 8 games into the following season, we were winless, 2 points from 24, we were bottom of the table and there was a parting of the ways.
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And another season effectively fucked
 
Obvious there was a conversation from January with all the injuries between players/board/management to sack the league off. If we needed to we would of won more games. Ange has won a European Trophy. Jol Redknapp Poch Conte Mourinho didn't
Get Eze Wharton Mbuemo Grealish in and let's cook
 
bk_spur said:
CL is a real competition compared to EL. I agree with you. EL is lower grade comp than even english league cup (because you eventually play real prem heavyweights). 2019 was a much bigger footballing achievement than the EL cup we won yesterday, no question about it.

Glad everyone is having good time, but they shouldn’t get carried away, and should try to maintain some perspective.

Champions of Europe? Champions of Europe Junior League is what it really is. I don’t think we beat a single CL team all season.
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EL is a much better comp to win than FA Cup or League Cup.
 
Aussie Yid in London said:
Ah yes, Son’s interviews over the past few days stated very clearly that he was more proud of losing the final than he was winning last night. That’s absolutely why he said he wasn’t a club legend until then.

Your opinion is both idiotic and objectively wrong.
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You obvious are biased because you're from Australia (at least that's what your name says) so you naturally wanna defend Angelos...and you're obviously unaware of huge gap in quality between the CL and the EL.
Son is being diplomatic - but on a world stage being in a CL final is much bigger than being in an EL final.
But if you think otherwise, feel free to have your wrong opinions about the objective world of football.
How many top players have you said say, "I dream of playing in the EL"...? None.
 

'It still remains to be seen if he will be here at the start of the next season'published at 13:47 British Summer Time
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It still remains to be seen if he will be here at the start of the next season. The direction for travel has been for so long that Ange Postecoglou will leave the club ahead of next season. Does this victory, this euphoria here change matters? I am not sure it does.
If I was a betting man, I'd still put my money on him not being here next season. But I think what's happened tonight is that he gets to go out on his own terms, he gets to go out as a winner and instead of going out the back door, he can go with his head held high through the front door."
I think he [Daniel Levy] saw what happened to Manchester United at the start of the season with Erik ten Hag and he will not want to make that same mistake. But does the euphoria of tonight change things? I think once tonight is out of the way, the decision will be made and Daniel Levy will remain ruthless about that.
 
Pathfinder said:
You obvious are biased because you're from Australia (at least that's what your name says) so you naturally wanna defend Angelos...and you're obviously unaware of huge gap in quality between the CL and the EL.
Son is being diplomatic - but on a world stage being in a CL final is much bigger than being in an EL final.
But if you think otherwise, feel free to have your wrong opinions about the objective world of football.
How many top players have you said say, "I dream of playing in the EL"...? None.
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I openly said I’m biased, but I’m a Spurs fan first (and have met many of the members of this forum in person years before he was our manager), and an Ange fan second.

if you can genuinely say to yourself that you felt the team accomplished more after 2019 than last night, then fair fucks. I would personally say that’s a loser mentality, but I guess that’s just my wrong opinion.

Except that everything the one player who played in both finals for us has said disagrees with your opinion.
 
bk_spur said:
CL is a real competition compared to EL. I agree with you. EL is lower grade comp than even english league cup (because you eventually play real prem heavyweights). 2019 was a much bigger footballing achievement than the EL cup we won yesterday, no question about it.

Glad everyone is having good time, but they shouldn’t get carried away, and should try to maintain some perspective.

Champions of Europe? Champions of Europe Junior League is what it really is. I don’t think we beat a single CL team all season.
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Europa League is far above the League Cup.

That's not up for debate, frankly. Anyone who wants to talk down our achievement last night can fuck themselves with a rusty poker and get the fuck off this forum.

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Pathfinder said:
If playing in the CL is utter nonsense why is CL footy one of the demands of quality targets then?
CL is the biggest stage in football outside of the WC play-offs. Just ask any (top) player. It's not just a financial bonus for players but a stage where they can highlight and spotlight their talent.
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And the fact that we’re in the Cl next season should be good for our recruitment

Winning the CL is the ultimate for any side surely
 
Great win, huge for the club to get the monkey off its back, but I don't want him here next season nor believe in him as a coach long term. That is my opinion. I am aware other people disagree and will be caught up in the emotions of last night and that is fine.

For me, nothing changed in that game in terms of his future. That wasn't an amazingly coached team to be excited about for the future, it was a side putting in a one off defensive performance and fighting for its life against another side who severely lacked quality. Ange can have credit for inspiring that but if/when we stick with him I expect it to end in tears.
 
Ultimately, the safest play for Levy now imo is to retain him. If he sacks Ange and results don’t improve, the backlash will be severe, especially considering the players are behind him and he has just won us a major trophy.

But if he keeps him on, gives him the opportunity to prove himself at the start of next season, and things still unravel over those first 10 games, then Levy has a far cleaner exit. At that point, no one can argue with the decision, and Ange still walks away with credit for breaking the trophy drought and delivering a European title.

The only issue is, if Levy is unsure about him that will impact our transfers I imagine, which probably won’t help matters in general.
 
Aussie Yid in London said:
if you can genuinely say to yourself that you felt the team accomplished more after 2019 than last night, then fair fucks. I would personally say that’s a loser mentality, but I guess that’s just my wrong opinion.
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Its not a loser mentality, its objectivity.

To get to the final of the CL is extremely difficult. Teams who have won the europa league recently include Frankfurt, Sevilla, Villareal, this level of United side. You don't have to be elite to win it, you don't have to be even close. To win the CL you have to be elite, one of the very top teams in Europe. To get there we beat Manchester City, Dortmund and an amazing Ajax side after navigating Inter and Barca in a groups. It was by far a bigger achievement. Teams who win the EL don't even get out of CL groups- regularly.

Not sure in what world recognising that the elite competition is by a huge magnitude much more difficult equates to a loser mentality. I assume Chelsea winning the conference league will be a bigger achievement than us reaching a champions league final too.
 
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