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Its still not more of an achievement than winning a cup - you sound like Arteta.
Lol of course it wasn't. Any one of the teams we beat in the CL journey would absolutely fucking fist this team, stop being ridiculous.
It's a dramatically lower quality of competition, we played 16th in the final. Stop making it out to be something it wasn't. It was an amazing opportunity that the team navigated admirably. It wasn't some huge, groundbreaking accomplishment, it was beating 16th in the premier league in a final.
This is what I said would happen pre-game - bigging this up in order to justify keeping Ange on. You can be absolutely delighted to win this cup without making it something it isn't, but as expected all some people are interested in is acting like we just beat prime Madrid.
Its objectively better to win the competition than not to win another - but that does not make it more "impressive" in reality. The mental gymnastics to believe that beating AZ, Frankfurt, Bodo and United is a harder task than Dortmund, a 100 point City side, Ajax and then losing to a 98 point Liverpool side is absolutely mental.
The CL final is by a distant margin the most impressive thing this club has achieved in ages. Followed by that 86 point season.
A generation of ENIC ownership has knocked the self-respect out of us.
Woolwich won nothing this season. That's all that matters.
This is what i said a few days back before getting sin binned.
Loser mentality from these people trying to downplay our achievement this season - it is honestly pathetic.
Ask any top player if they rather would like to win the League cup or be a loser in the CL final.... Or ask any club with ambition what they prefer.
It's not a loser mentality to prefer to lose a CL over winning a 2nd or 3rd class competition.
Would you rather see your national team win a WC qualifying group over being a lose in a WC final?
Oh my bad I always thought top clubs were judged on winning stuff, my bad.
Do you think anyone would respect Real if they finished CL runners up 15 times and constantly failed at the last hurdle, do you think anyone would still look at them as a European giant or a top European side?
What the fuck are we even doing here?
Son disagrees with you.
Tottenham: Son Heung-min wins first trophy with Europa League triumph
Captain Son Heung-min jokes that he was a Tottenham "legend" after they win their first major trophy in 17 years.
www.bbc.com
Sorry but plenty of fans were jealous of the miracle of Amsterdam and us getting to the CL final
How could they not be?
I remember Rio jumping up and down with Glenn in the commentary box at the final whistle
I am friendly with a mixture of Spammers, Goons and Chavs and all of them were in awe of us getting so far and, to their credit, all supported us against the Dippers
How will I cope! Lots of long term genuine Spurs fans were though. Not just dozy opportunists like yourself
Those same fans bantered the fuck out of us when we lost the final.
They can’t do that today, apparently it’s just our own fans downplaying it.
We're really talking about 2nd place is better than winning a trophy on a Spurs board
I'm not unsympathetic to the argument but I'm so fucking glad the gooners now know exactly what it was like for us to walk away from 2015-19 with fuck all.
Whoever said the League Cup ranks above the Europa needs some hardcore medication
Yeah I'm sure Son much preferred the feeling at the end of the CL watching the scousers raise the trophy and inspecting his second place medal than last night...
Mate.....come on
Yes but when do we break ground on his statue?
He can have a statue (a small one) if it means he walks away after this.
My biggest fear was he stays due to the emotion overriding the facts of what happened last night. Which is what has happened. I understand and know why (this is a club that hasn't won anything in yonks) but also know that keeping him on is going to lead to more of the same last season, and we'll be in the CL so there will be no weaker competition to fall back on.
Ah well. Ultimately you'd take that for a trophy.
That night will go down in spurs history - but if you ask them today, which one is the greater achievement, getting to and losing the CL final or winning the europa league last night - id be very interested to hear their point of view.
my point isn't that the former is not some kind of achievement, it's that it is not a greater one than winning something.
Let me ask you this.
If arnsel had beaten PSG and gotten to, and lost the CL final, would you see that as a greater achievement than us winning the europa?
Cup Winners Cup 1994 - George Graham. Surely that counts?
What about Pool and City?
If you'd of said to me lose europa and sack ange or win Europa and keep him I'd of said win and keep him. I've not been on board with this appointment pretty much since his name was mentioned but I have to thank him because last night being at White Hart Lane I experienced something I'd convinced myself was never going to happen and it's the most incredible thing I've witnessed as a spurs fan. For that he has my eternal gratitude and I think he should get the start of next season to put the league form right now.