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Management Ange Postecoglou

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If you'd of said to me lose europa and sack ange or win Europa and keep him I'd of said win and keep him. I've not been on board with this appointment pretty much since his name was mentioned but I have to thank him because last night being at White Hart Lane I experienced something I'd convinced myself was never going to happen and it's the most incredible thing I've witnessed as a spurs fan. For that he has my eternal gratitude and I think he should get the start of next season to put the league form right now.
 
I’ve been very open and up front about my dislike for Ange and his approach to football. But to sack him now would be to lose the dressing room. The players would be confused and hurt and imo we’d see a lot of players requesting transfers away. So unfortunately, he will stay.
 
Those same fans bantered the fuck out of us when we lost the final.

They can’t do that today, apparently it’s just our own fans downplaying it.

Read my post before having a go as I was referring to the fans that I’m acquainted with so it wasn’t those same fans who bantered us

Maybe the sort of company you keep?

Just to be clear in no way am I downplaying last night’s result
It was brilliant

Scrappy game with two poor sides but the result was all that mattered and we got over the line!
 
I openly said I’m biased, but I’m a Spurs fan first (and have met many of the members of this forum in person years before he was our manager), and an Ange fan second.

if you can genuinely say to yourself that you felt the team accomplished more after 2019 than last night, then fair fucks. I would personally say that’s a loser mentality, but I guess that’s just my wrong opinion.

Except that everything the one player who played in both finals for us has said disagrees with your opinion.
Winning last night is a million times better than losing any final. No-one wants to lose any final. Winning is all that winners care about.
 
We're really talking about 2nd place is better than winning a trophy on a Spurs board

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Boggles the mind, we win a trophy and some of our fanbase still seems determined to sit in Arsenals shadow

Woolwich a team of serial bottlers who literally coined the phrase top four trophy

People in here trying to tell me these losers had a better season than us when they won fuck all
 
No no no and no, we need a proper manager. This trophy was tottaly out of the blue, we got tô the final playing horrible football in some matches, with a bit of luck and thanks to a very good squad that Ange managed to finish 17th in the Premier. Nothing suggests he deserves another chance, football didn't improve under him since he arrived and we are unwatchable most of the time. Also UCL is a Very different challenge.
 
I’ve been very open and up front about my dislike for Ange and his approach to football. But to sack him now would be to lose the dressing room. The players would be confused and hurt and imo we’d see a lot of players requesting transfers away. So unfortunately, he will stay.
So you &others can continue to undermine him!
Some fan you are!
 
I’ve been very open and up front about my dislike for Ange and his approach to football. But to sack him now would be to lose the dressing room. So unfortunately, he stays.
Yeah I think this is a fair opinion.

Listening to all the players tonight really felt like a mentality turning point - they now know they can win, and want to win more.

Pick talked about the “painful rebuild”, this year is what that has looked like. Ange, in that, has delivered a European Trophy.

It is a pivotal moment in the club, and I think purely from a mentality perspective it would be a massive mistake to remove the man who instilled that.
 
Ask any player what they would prefer and you'll get the answer.
In case you didn't know, it's far tougher to get into a CL final than to win the EL.
Bodø-Glimt were in the EL ...because they lost to Red Star in last CL qualification round. Red Star didn't make it out of the CL group stage.
Besides, your logic is based on wrong assumptions: when Spurs won the UEFA the previous times the UEFA was actually considered almost hard to win as the then European cup. So winning the UEFA back then was much more of an achievement than now.
But back then the European Cup didn't have 167* teams in it, which is why the UEFA Cup was 'hard to win'.

There are 'easy' games/draws in the Champions League too.

If winning the Europa League is so easy now, why isn't everyone doing it?




* Slight exaggeration to emphasise a point.
 
Read my post before having a go as I was referring to the fans that I’m acquainted with so it wasn’t those same fans who bantered us

Maybe the sort of company you keep?

Just to be clear in no way am I downplaying last night’s result
It was brilliant

Scrappy game with two poor sides but the result was all that mattered and we got over the line!
Sorry, I read this as rival fans that you were mates or acquaintances with, who absolutely bantered us after losing that game.
 
What are we doing on here... for one day can we just enjoy winning a major trophy. Just put aside the whole argument on Ange or who has a better season... WE FUCKING WON SOMETHING. My son, turned 18 this year (only 12 months old when we won the League cup in 2008) was in tears of joy at the final whistle... He said to me, I thought I would never see us win anything... this was a special moment so let's just enjoy it and worry about next season in a few weeks. I've got better things to do like banter the fuck out of the nomads!!!
 
That night will go down in spurs history - but if you ask them today, which one is the greater achievement, getting to and losing the CL final or winning the europa league last night - id be very interested to hear their point of view.

my point isn't that the former is not some kind of achievement, it's that it is not a greater one than winning something.

Let me ask you this.

If arnsel had beaten PSG and gotten to, and lost the CL final, would you see that as a greater achievement than us winning the europa?

I thought I had explained my post but will do again

I was simply disagreeing with your point that NO football fan was jealous of us getting to the CL final

Plenty were

I don’t disagree that of course it’s better for Sonny to pick up a winners medal last night than a runners up medal in 2019 but the CL is a far superior tournament
 
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