Why would they when he's managing in oceania regions most of his career? Got a big move 2 years after managing in Europe.
Pretty obvious
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Why would they when he's managing in oceania regions most of his career? Got a big move 2 years after managing in Europe.
Pretty obvious
So there can be other reasons for being discovered late than not being good enough. Yet for Frank you assume its because he isn't good even though he isn't that old for a manager.
Frank's only been managing first team football since 2018, so why are you holding that against him? Ferguson was managing for a decade before going to Utd and he wasn't that much younger than Frank is now.
See that’s interesting for me it’s complete opposite. Social media right now has swung to a majority wanting ange to stay but every spurs fan i know in real life still wants him gone.
Was down at the parade with 8 of my guys and every single one shares the same view as me that it’s the perfect time for both parties to leave , even the ones who were backing him up Til around March time haven’t switched up again.
I’m intrigued how it’s going to be viewed if he is sacked, I can see social media being furious with the decision but it being more even with the match going fans, but could be wrong could just be my spurs bubble sharing a similar view that isn’t shared by the masses.
Maybe we can do our own "Evans/Houllier" experiment (for those old enough to remember).
Ange can be our cup manager and we'll hire someone to manage the league team.
Wouldn't actually surprise me if, in the future, clubs have that kind of split - what with the number of games (see club world cup) and players you'd need to get close to a treble/quad these days
Ange can be our cup manager and we'll hire someone to manage the league team.
Wouldn't actually surprise me if, in the future, clubs have that kind of split - what with the number of games (see club world cup) and players you'd need to get close to a treble/quad these days
Ask yourself this: when have you ever watched Brentford and thought they were lacking for effort, or that they weren't playing for thier manager?
If anything, they are one of the top 3 in the league for persistent, driven endeavour imo.
Just read Levys end of season message, he’s gone. Levy would 100% be milking Ange being the one to end the cup drought and pushing us on next season. I expect during the next week we’ll hear that he’s gone, I assume Paratici has names lined up and we’re not going to wait until pre-season starts in July to start conducting interviews.
Yep and Frank is pretty meh , if you're gonna get a manager from a mid table team then it would be glasner who are least has Europa and now fa cup success
Not Mr milquetoast
The final was far too emotional for me to be rational about his appointment right now, I am still on cloud 9.
Frankly I think he has earned the start of the season, now if that’s a good idea or not remains to be seen, the league form says it would be a disastrous decision and I have always maintained that is the true barometer and measurement of growth.
But sacking him after such a major achievement and without at least giving him a chance to prove us all wrong like he did when he said he always wins a trophy in his second season and he actually did it, it would just feel wrong to do so and I don’t see the benefit of it now.
If we bring someone in and they are just as bad in the league for form and it rips apart the harmony in the squad and the feel good factor, not only do we become a laughing stock but it may ruin any forward momentum we have.
I say take a chance and if we get 10 games in and the league form is still as bad as now then we part ways at least knowing we gave him the chance to fix it, I think after winning the EL it’s the least he deserves.
Frankly I think he has earned the start of the season, now if that’s a good idea or not remains to be seen, the league form says it would be a disastrous decision and I have always maintained that is the true barometer and measurement of growth.
But sacking him after such a major achievement and without at least giving him a chance to prove us all wrong like he did when he said he always wins a trophy in his second season and he actually did it, it would just feel wrong to do so and I don’t see the benefit of it now.
If we bring someone in and they are just as bad in the league for form and it rips apart the harmony in the squad and the feel good factor, not only do we become a laughing stock but it may ruin any forward momentum we have.
I say take a chance and if we get 10 games in and the league form is still as bad as now then we part ways at least knowing we gave him the chance to fix it, I think after winning the EL it’s the least he deserves.
It’s a toughie, I’ve been strongly Ange Out but the reality I’m being forced to confront is what happens then, who replaces him? Does it make sense to take out a manager who has won a major trophy for the Club, only to replace him with a manager from a lesser club who has won nothing and only has potential to offer?
I know keeping Ange will just end in tears, possibly by Xmas but can you really move it out at this time? Dunno, tough decision.
I know keeping Ange will just end in tears, possibly by Xmas but can you really move it out at this time? Dunno, tough decision.
thats true! but when you watch other sides as a neutral its different aint it.
watched a few videos on frank now though and hes defo far more of a football scientist than what we have now so thats straight away a big upgrade.
Because we’ve just won a cup and fans are mostly emotional idiots who are blinded by it and have now forgotten a year and a half of shite because we beat 16th in a final.
I hope and trust the club are not as emotional or idiotic. Paratici especially. Not a huge fan of him but he is ruthless and will look at the facts. This is not a man to lead us to consistent results or success at the top level of the sport.
We face our Ten Haag, Di Matteo moment - a poor coach happening upon a cup. We can make the same mistake or go and get a proper coach in. Or continue the year and a half of absolutely garbage and our worst finish in forever.
Di Matteo masterminded his club to their first ever CL title against Barcelona and Bayern Munich after masterminding an FA cup win + also got them up the league. By the reasons people give to keep Ange he’s a genius. That achievement dwarves Ange’s.
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Good luck getting someone in 10 games into the season and not giving him a preseason.
That's way too risky. Chelsea did the same with Di Matteo and they had to get Benitez in for the rest of the season.
I think the main issue is if the league form is still terrible after ten games we would have wasted the summer window and need a new manager.
It's Lange and Pat that a in charge of moulding the team really. That's the point of the system, changing the coach isn't supposed to lead to having to tear it all up
Last time we did that we finished 4th
That's a fair point.
I understand the risks of it but I just think sacking him now would actually have a negative impact if I am completely honest.
Yeah I’m sure that very particular situation will happen again and an actual elite coach (league title winner, go on my son) will be available at that time.