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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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The only thing that I can remember is when he said something like how it was his responsibility to fix the club. Which isn't even what you were talking about but it does paint the picture of when things work it is because of him, and when it doesn't because of X amount of external factors.
Brother you are way smarter than this. Give your head a wobble.
Tbf I've been celebrating since Wednesday night so it's been wobbling enough lol.
The majority of footballers are unbelievably thick and easy to con. They want two things. to play and to be well paid. If they get both they love it.
You support Spurs you have every right to enjoy it. I'm never forgetting it. But he's a clueless manager horribly out of his depth haven't seen a thing to change my mind about it. Unlike the Dudu talkers who are in his personality cult I've seen us win trophies under joke coaches before, it's not as unique as they want you to think Graham, Ramos , no one at Spurs recalls them fondly. Ange will be just as soon forgotten. Chavs don't sing for Demateo and he won them a ECL.
Happily I think he's gone and hopefully he takes the cult off to Olympiakos with him. He's mugged off no one with an actual brain about EPL level football.
We finished 17th?? On 38 points ?????
Fuck me he’s not a prophet because he predicted we would win something and we did. He threw the rest of the season away to focus hard on what he knew was by far the easiest thing to win because the calibre of opposition is incredibly low compared to the Prem.
‘Delivers’ - guy won a trophy but football has been shocking for a year and a half and we’ve seen our worst league season in forever. He hasn’t delivered shit. The EL win gets him a thank you and a goodbye cheque.
38 points you dimwit. Mugged us off?
Well done him for masterminding a win over the biggest shitshow United team in history. Let’s all kiss his feet.
He’s shite, his fans are shitebags, and he needs to go.
I agree with this, except that I think it has far less to do with Levy just having a fetish for an Australian accent, and far more to do with the magic by which Ange turned players like Hojbjerg, Lo Celso and Spence from write-off liabilities into assets.
The Levy ideology, boiled down to its essence, is that transfer market expenditure does not create squad value, management (inclusive of scouting and recruitment and the like) creates squad value. All of the million different Levy projects have been just the newest re-branding of that same core idea, that you can be a top club without spending like one if your leadership is clever and shrewd enough.
I think Levy trusts Ange with his money, which was the critical failure in his relationship with Poch and has been a persistent thorn in his side for his entire chairmanship. He's always felt his managers were horribly wasteful with the resources they were given (not unjustifiably!) and so he really wants this to work.
Sacrificing everything to break our trophy drought was the right thing to do even if Ange is a out-of-his-depth lightweight who needs to go.
The club is in a MUCH better position today than it would have been if we'd finished 5th with the trophy drought ongoing.
And one of the benefits of that is that the options to replace Ange are now better than they would have been.
Tbf he blamed himself in that as well.
It's clear the mistakes were he wanted us to focus on signing younger players and we did that. He believed younger players were quicker to adopting to the system and whilst that's true he failed to understand (or fully appreciate) that there is a humongous downside to only focusing on young players as evidenced this season.
"headless chickens" hmmmm yeh ok mate I don't agree. We deserved the wins against Bodo, Frankfurt and United...they did the square root of fuck all. Mourinho won the league with Chavksi doing this exact thing where he limited the opposition to next to nothing whilst grabbing a goal or two.
I'm not Ange in btw. I would prefer we got one of Xavi, Glasner or Emery now with us winning something and getting into the CL but this hater nature by a lot is over the top ffs. He won us a cup after telling us he would and is still getting pelter. Same with Johnson, scoring 18 goals from a wide position and still getting "yeh but blah blah". I hate that kind of mentality irrespective of who it's directed at (Johnson who I rate, Ange who I don't rate).
Chavs have owners who will spend and buy players until shit sticks.
Woolwich have ambitious owners.
We have ENIC. A property company with a football club attached to it. Perhaps this is the only winning model under them, throw the league and everything to win a cup.
We saw under Poch even when it all comes together the club will pull the rug. This makes supporters attitudes different to Chavs and Arse. It’s all just a compromise.
If we get a better manager. Let’s say Poch comes back, 2 seasons we fix the squad and are back in top 4, will we push on or will we just sit under the same glass ceiling. An EL or an FA cup and fucking the league it’s doable. Going for the CL or Prem requires a miracle.
Maybe there was some luck for this but Ange probably made the calculation this is the only way.
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The bloke lost to leicester and ipswich at home ffs. Im sorry he has to go.
its dreadful
i even know who the 5 wins were against because I pointed it out to an Ange Inner
Ipswich
saints x2
(both relegated of course)
a fluke away at Brentford
and 1-0 v the worst MUFC team since 1974
how ANYONE can defend this is quite beyond me
Fuck him. Europa league win is great but is more to do with luck and circumstance than it is his own genius. Had we played in last years version we go out to Leverkusen or Atalanta or Liverpool. This was a weak year.
So sick of his striking gold being made out to be his genius. Watch us totally flake out of the CL miserably if we stick with him, because he’s not some cup hero, he just didn’t play a team good enough to do what top prem sides do to us.
I’m happy for him to dance around and claim laurels and act like he masterminded wins over prime Barca, as long as he fucks off and we don’t have to deal with the actual reality of his coaching.
A lot of people are so awed by winning silverware that they've lost all perspective..
What do you actually bring to this board? is your whole existence to troll? are you actually Spurs?Pictures that will go down in history
I'm honestly being genuine. I get it you want a reaction but what is your overall goal? it's clear you have little to no intention debating but I don't think you fully understand how pathetic you come across.