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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
I think the biggest fear here is “what if Levy’s on the fence” - we don’t want a bad start to next season and then firing Ange in October/November.

Personally I feel this is a great time to part company for everyone, Ange’s rep intact, Spurs with the trophy monkey off their back and more desirable to decent managers.

If we’re going to stick with Ange then he needs to be backed fully and he himself has to find that balance between defence and attack and playing 2 games a week without half the squad dying.
 
WillWilliams said:
You just don’t understand the English culture that’s all.

One of the most successful football managers to have walked this planet is nicknamed Fraudiola over here.

Like calling Harry Kane a one season wonder Tap in penalty merchant.

Welcome to England. It’s just what we do.

The flip side with Ange is he’s not the most consistent and genuine in what he says.
So yeah he did what he said. He also said a shed load of stuff he then did the opposite of.

But he’s only human. If people expect him to be perfect that’s on them.
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Fair post.
 
I asked ChatGpt "should tottenham fire postecoglou" and this is what it replied:

Tottenham Hotspur's decision regarding manager Ange Postecoglou is currently under intense scrutiny. Despite leading the club to its first major trophy in 17 years by winning the Europa League, Spurs endured a disappointing Premier League season, finishing 17th—their worst top-flight finish since 1976–77 .

Reasons for Considering a Change​


  • Poor Domestic Performance: Tottenham's league form has been abysmal, with only 38 points from 38 matches and 22 losses, setting a new record low points tally for the Premier League era .
  • Injuries and Squad Depth: Key players like Richarlison, James Maddison, and others have been sidelined, leading to a thin squad and inconsistent performances .
  • Fan Frustration: Some supporters and pundits have expressed dissatisfaction with Postecoglou's tactics and results, suggesting that a change might be necessary to restore the club's competitiveness .

Reasons to Retain Postecoglou​


  • European Success: Winning the Europa League not only secured Tottenham's first European title in 41 years but also guaranteed qualification for the 2025–26 UEFA Champions League .
  • Long-Term Project: Postecoglou's approach emphasizes youth development and a progressive playing style. Sacking him could disrupt this vision and lead to another managerial overhaul .
  • Support from Players: Key players like Dejan Kulusevski have publicly backed Postecoglou, highlighting the team's belief in his methods .
Current Status

Chairman Daniel Levy has yet to make a definitive statement on Postecoglou's future. Reports indicate that the board is divided, with some members supporting the manager and others advocating for a change . The club's position remains uncertain as evaluations continue.

Conclusion​


While Tottenham's domestic performance this season has been disappointing, the club's recent European success and the potential long-term benefits of Postecoglou's managerial approach suggest that sacking him might not be the optimal solution. A more measured approach, focusing on squad reinforcement and tactical adjustments, could be more beneficial for the club's future.
 
Guys..I've never, ever, claimed to be some kind of ITK, but a reliable geezer I'm in occasional business contact with (yesterday afternoon being one such occasion) who liases regularly with the club is absolutely adamant that the decision has already been made to run with Ange next season.
 
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Tottenham Massive said:
Guys..I've never, ever, claimed to be some kind of ITK, but a reliable geezer I'm in occasional business contact with (yesterday afternoon being one such occasion) who liases regularly with the club is absolutely adamant that the decision has already been made to run with Ange next season.
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This makes sense in what I think Levy wants, and that is he fancies Poch returning after the WC so will be very hesitant to bring someone in now to be potentially paying them off at the end of the season if they are shite!
 
Tottenham Massive said:
Guys..I've never, ever, claimed to be some kind of ITK, but a reliable geezer I'm in occasional business contact with (yesterday afternoon being one such occasion) who liases regularly with the club is absolutely adamant that the decision has already been made to run with Ange next season.
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I hope he is full of shit. But when such a decision is communicated. I will fall back and pray.
 
Tottenham Massive said:
Guys..I've never, ever, claimed to be some kind of ITK, but a reliable geezer I'm in occasional business contact with (yesterday afternoon being one such occasion) who liases regularly with the club is absolutely adamant that the decision has already been made to run with Ange next season.
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To be honest it’s quite obvious. Spurs fans waiting for the club to make a statement when in reality the only statement they could make is that he’s sacked. Other than that he’s under contract and is the manager.
 
harry7 said:
If we want to have a real go at the EPL and Champions League.
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harry7 said:
- Sack Ange and appoint a proper manager
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harry7 said:
- Vast improvements to medical department.
- Romero and Porro stay.
- New number 6 to replace Bissouma.
- Bring in the best goalkeeping coach alive to work with Kinsky and Vic.
- Sell Spence; and get 2 full backs who can compete with Porro and Udogie.
- If Richy isn't physically capable, sell and bring in a striker.
- Dragusin and Kulu will likely be out until later this year. We can't rely on 18 year olds to fill the void. Get some experience players (on loan) to fill the void.
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Tottenham Massive said:
Guys..I've never, ever, claimed to be some kind of ITK, but a reliable geezer I'm in occasional business contact with (yesterday afternoon being one such occasion) who liases regularly with the club is absolutely adamant that the decision has already been made to run with Ange next season.
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I've heard several times that no decision has been made yet - I suspect it largely hinges on who they can get to replace him.
 
Aphex said:
The trophy win was great but also some of the best times supporting Spurs was when we were going to places like Juventus in the CL and playing them off the park. Or when we beat Real Madrid at Wembley.

Or going unbeaten at WHL all season. That might sound odd, because last Wednesday was acutely better in absolute terms. But I can't help but feel that a one off almost fluke trophy win, is just that. A one off. It means nothing else if you aren't a side built to consistently challenge.

My connection to Spurs under Poch was the strongest I've ever had it. Ultimately I wanted Poch gone, because he never got the team over the line (and results and performances did drop off under him. His whole idea with building the midfield around Winks in a diamond formation was awful towards the end of his reign).

So there is a bit of irony there, because Ange got us over the line, but he's a shit manager and delivered a woeful PL season.

So what is it we are after? Is it trophies? or is it consistent success which might mean no trophies?


For me, it is consistent success. Trophies should be an outcome we get if we have a consistent side challenging at the top of the table. We want both of course, but it isn't guaranteed. Look at us under Poch and Woolwich under Arteta.

But I ask you this. Which fans do you think will be more excited about the upcoming league season? Woolwich or Spurs? Who do you think will have a better season? Woolwich or Spurs? It's going to be Woolwich sorry to say.

They are highly likely to finish in the top 3, possibly win the title, or at least go close, probably reach the latter stages of the CL. They've been doing this for a few years now. Yes their fans will moan they haven't won anything, football fans will always moan. But, they wouldn't swap their position for ours in a million years. They'll be jealous for a short while, that we won a trophy, and had some glory. But trust me, by next week they'll have forgotten all about it and will be excited to see their team win most weeks against PL and CL sides. And what will we be looking forward to?

We are likely to get dumped out of the CL, we might make it to the knock outs if we are lucky. Do we see a good domestic cup run? Maybe, but we will likely lose when we come up against a City or Liverpool (or Woolwich).

At the end of the day, I want to be able to go into every PL game each week, positive about my teams chances. Positive that we will see a manager who can adapt his tactics and watch us overcome the other teams. I want us to be sound defensively, and potent in attack.

I want to see us organised.

But ultimately, I want to see us win, often. I don't give a fuck if we win 30 games next season 1 nil. The style of football to me is secondary. I can get just as much enjoyment out of watching my team suffocate opposition to death, be miserly in defence and score from a set piece. Controlling teams. I'd much rather that then lose 4-3 playing gung ho.

Winning is entertaining, losing isn't.

Anyway, the reason i say this. Is because I see so many fans saying Ange needs to be kept on because he won a trophy. It's bollocks. The trophy was a one off.

Ange isn't going to deliver us the Spurs that we all want to see. A team challenging at the top of the PL. We need a different manager for that. I firmly believe with FP coming back, and a new manager, we can get back on that path. It won't be with Ange though.

He is incapable of it. He simpy isn't tactically savy enough, his way of playing is porous and so beatable. He's just a chancer, and next season will be a disaster if he continues in the role.
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I'm torn because I know if we sack him then players like Romero and Porro could look to leave and there is part of me that thinks we can really build on this current group of players. Player for player, this is the best back 4 we've ever had and probably will ever have. Its a generational back 4. I'd love us to keep them and build on it.

But I'm not convinced Ange is the man to bring us forward. Its almost a shame that the players love him so much because it makes sacking him a massive gamble where it could ruin morale and we probably will lose Romero and maybe Porro too.

As things stand, it sounds like no players will want to leave if Ange stays. Maybe the sensible thing to do is keep him and see how this united group of players do under him next season. I'm torn really. Don't mind which way it goes. Just hope we make the decision next week and can start building for next season.
 
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