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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Bournemouth played the most long balls in the prem lge last season. He’s not going to win trophies with Brentford. Poch and Eddie Howe never managed in euro comps. Neither had Maresca, only done one season in the champ. Clueless post.
Thomas Frank…come on down.
Lol. Not the best example.

Howes first season in the champs league saw them knocked out in the group and sink to eighth in the premier league.
 
All fair points.

I think a big part of the pressure for all incoming manager has actually gone. We can't win the CL and no one with brain cell will say different. That relieves the trophy part and then it's just doing better than 17th, but mostly, it's about building a team that looks competent.

But it will take something quite astonishing to preside over worse than this season, glorious Europa apart.
There in lies the difference. Ange will win the champions league and will have the squad believing that.

Seeing Inters heads drop after the first goal showed the importance of belief. Those players were resigned to losing the second that goal went in. Similar to
Poch's Spurs team.
 
ange has won 2 premierships with south melbourne , 2 premierships with brisbane roar, 1 premiership with yokahama marinos the first trophy in 15 years for that club, 2 premierships 1 cup and 2 league cups with celtic, has won the asian cup with the australian national team first time ever, and 1 uefa europa league with spurs. coached at a world cup.
All very low level leagues. None of them are in the top 20 leagues.....
 
It seems it’s down to three. 1. Ange stays, 2. Frank and 3. Silva
Whatever happens we mustn’t get Silva. He’s done ok at Fulham but was shit at Everton.

The bigger question is why Levy is procrastinating so much. The window is open and he can’t even decide on a manager ffs! Don’t expect any player signings soon.
It’s been said that Levy buys players late in the window because he’s trying to get a bargain. I think it’s because he can’t make his mind up. He’s a commitment phoebe
 
All very low level leagues. None of them are in the top 20 leagues.....

Europa League isn’t

Winning every league you’ve ever played in doesn’t reflect badly on you just because they aren’t the PL.

Pep just hired an assistant directly from the Australian league. Good coming and good ideas are about more than just the level of players in the league.

If anything it’s harder to coach less skilled players.
 
With the timing of this sacking, right after reaching by far the biggest height of his career, his ascendancy to a mythical status among some people here will be complete. Even more so if his replacement doesn't hit the ground running, whether Frank or anybody else.

He is leaving a club that he has always held in contempt not only with a hefty payout in his pocket, but also with his reputation improved. He's hardly a suffering victim here, so I don't feel the need to mourn him.

It'll be interesting to see where he ends up.
Hopefully the cultists drink the coolaid when he ascends
Do you expect any less from him at this stage?
Starting to agree with this. And it could end up being a whole lot worse.
Still be better than what we have.
Tbh id rather de zerbi than frank.
I work with a Brighton season ticket holder.
He said RDZ stropped out of Brighton because he was promised money to spend and not given it.
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ange has won 2 premierships with south melbourne , 2 premierships with brisbane roar, 1 premiership with yokahama marinos the first trophy in 15 years for that club, 2 premierships 1 cup and 2 league cups with celtic, has won the asian cup with the australian national team first time ever, and 1 uefa europa league with spurs. coached at a world cup.
Literally all of them, including the Europa league, are journeyman trophies.

The man is not Premier LEAGUE level
 
I don't see what is all the hype about Thomas Frank. He is the danish version of Sam Allardyce.
There's no hype ... No top managers want to work for our bald cunt and many here just think Frank will do better than Ange ... Frank is a very mediocre hiring imho but then, we're now a very mediocre club at best ...

Don't see anyone super excited/shooting off fireworks about Frank - though many here will be very relieved (perhaps even excited) to see Ange going ... the sentimental (and morbid) part of me wants to keep Ange on to see how it goes - but then I genuinely believe we'll be a car wreck with Ange and ECL next season so time for change ...
 
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With the timing of this sacking, right after reaching by far the biggest height of his career, his ascendancy to a mythical status among some people here will be complete. Even more so if his replacement doesn't hit the ground running, whether Frank or anybody else.

He is leaving a club that he has always held in contempt not only with a hefty payout in his pocket, but also with his reputation improved. He's hardly a suffering victim here, so I don't feel the need to mourn him.

It'll be interesting to see where he ends up.
It's true that Ange supporters who came out of the shadows after the cup win, or who switched sides in his favor because of it, will have the luxury of never being proved wrong.

If Ange goes then they can always claim he would have done better if the next manager fails, even though Ange has done worse than any manager we've had in modern times. And if the next manager succeeds, they will try to credit Ange for "changing the culture" or claim that he'd have done just as well, even though he's been leading the team downward and downward for 2 years now.

I don't know how much his reputation improved at Spurs either. It's obvious that in the PL he was out of his depth, and not by only a few fathoms. He never beat our rivals. He was never in danger of winning a cup until this last improbable success.

Wouldn't you look at a manager like him and say this all proved that he can not do it at the PL level? What PL club wants to bet their future on him?
 
Why would Frank join us? He’s got a good thing going at Brentford and makes only slightly less money than Ange.

So unless Levy doubles Frank’s wage - why would Frank join a club he finished 8 places above with much higher expectations that has a history of sacking managers?

Stops man in street.

“Excuse me sir “

“Can you tell me why a manager would leave Brentford FC for one of the Premier leagues big 6, a club with immense history with a 62k stadium, CL football next season and who have recruited some of the best managers in world football over the last 10 years??”

Person you are asking the question to ……….

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I still feel like they're going to keep him going into next season. I personally think that doing nothing is the absolute wrong choice.. But it's the one that gets the least backlash from the press. Which even though it shouldn't matter, I think it will do. The club will think that they should wait until he's had a bad start (if that was to happen), and then make the change whilst comparatively coming up smelling of roses.. They'll have wasted a summer where they could do good work with a new coach, but they'll have avoided the whole "sacked the first manager to win something in 17 years" palava.

It's the reactive, safe choice.. And that is always the choice I put money on this club taking.

It’s definitely what experience tells us. Levy is never proactive and ahead of the game.

In regards to Frank, he is pretty charismatic, I think from that perspective he could woo Levy and also get the Ange cult onside pretty quickly with some smooth talking.
 
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