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Matt1882 said:
Literally all the pro United media (which is most of the media) were arrogantly suggesting Kane should just go to Man United or the all they have to do is show an interest in him and he would.

The man is in the twilight of his career, a career with no trophies. United have won one solitary league cup in around 6 or 7 years.
Why on earth would he leave us for that? It's not even like the days where you'd say "to play in the theater of dreams" as it's a fucking shadow of itself now.

But this shit will go on for decades. Same as Liverpool who went 30 years without a title but were talked about every year no matter how bad they were the year before.
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Ah yes, but that's what having 'Historical Legacy' does for you...
Most of the media (depending on their age) grew up with either Liverpool or Man Utd being the dominant force in English/European football and winning most trophies going (I'm not including MN City, Woolwich or Chelsea, 'cos that's just for 'Gen Z' and who gives a shit what they think yet?!!)

I think the assumption that clubs like Liverpool/Man Utd will always be "there or there abouts" is understandable, it's based on History and, in most seasons a fairly safe bet.

It's why we're usually talked about early season for one of the Cups.... It's what we were known as... The fact we haven't won one for years doesn't seem to affect that... We're traditionally a 'Cup Team's not a League titie winning one.

No one really saw Villa coming this year (or Leicester Fairytale FC) So they like to play safe, talk up one of the Big Boys, and hope that one at least will come up trumps...
Which inevitably, more often than not, they do!
 
1882 said:
Ah yes, but that's what having 'Historical Legacy' does for you...
Most of the media (depending on their age) grew up with either Liverpool or Man Utd being the dominant force in English/European football and winning most trophies going (I'm not including MN City, Woolwich or Chelsea, 'cos that's just for 'Gen Z' and who gives a shit what they think yet?!!)

I think the assumption that clubs like Liverpool/Man Utd will always be "there or there abouts" is understandable, it's based on History and, in most seasons a fairly safe bet.

It's why we're usually talked about early season for one of the Cups.... It's what we were known as... The fact we haven't won one for years doesn't seem to affect that... We're traditionally a 'Cup Team's not a League titie winning one.

No one really saw Villa coming this year (or Leicester Fairytale FC) So they like to play safe, talk up one of the Big Boys, and hope that one at least will come up trumps...
Which inevitably, more often than not, they do!
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Thing is, United:
Didn't win a title between 1967 & 1996
Haven't won a title for 14 years now.
Have won 1 FA Cup in the last 20 years which was 8 years ago in itself
Last CL win was 16 years ago

They have not been a force for more than 10 years now. They pick up the odd ropey league or league cup. They aren't title winners and won't be. They aren't even likely to be in the champions league often enough or long enough to ever challenge for that.
And unlike their heyday. there's at least 3 teams that can match their spending and pulling power. In the 90's and early 00's they were truly a giant. Players, not only in England, but across the world aspired to play for them because of what Fergie had done there.
But they will never find a) another fergie and b) be so far ahead of anyone that they find it easy to stay on top.

Once City get busted, there is unlikely to be a dominant force in England for a long time IMO. There's a lot of teams just below City now that are financially set to pounce
 
Matt1882 said:
Thing is, United:
Didn't win a title between 1967 & 1996
Haven't won a title for 14 years now.
Have won 1 FA Cup in the last 20 years which was 8 years ago in itself
Last CL win was 16 years ago

They have not been a force for more than 10 years now. They pick up the odd ropey league or league cup. They aren't title winners and won't be. They aren't even likely to be in the champions league often enough or long enough to ever challenge for that.
And unlike their heyday. there's at least 3 teams that can match their spending and pulling power. In the 90's and early 00's they were truly a giant. Players, not only in England, but across the world aspired to play for them because of what Fergie had done there.
But they will never find a) another fergie and b) be so far ahead of anyone that they find it easy to stay on top.

Once City get busted, there is unlikely to be a dominant force in England for a long time IMO. There's a lot of teams just below City now that are financially set to pounce
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That's exactly why... It's all about perception...

25-30yr old something media types grew up with the Alex Ferguson Utd, and that makes a lasting impression....

Same as the older journos probably remember the 1970's/'80s Liverpool... and can't shake that feeling that they'll always be there.

In about 20 years (when they have been properly punished, and playing League 1 football...) people will refer to Man City and Chelsea in the same way!
 
1882 said:
That's exactly why... It's all about perception...

25-30yr old something media types grew up with the Alex Ferguson Utd, and that makes a lasting impression....

Same as the older journos probably remember the 1970's/'80s Liverpool... and can't shake that feeling that they'll always be there.

In about 20 years (when they have been properly punished, and playing League 1 football...) people will refer to Man City and Chelsea in the same way!
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Obviously I get that. And obviously there's another, less innocent reason why they do it. It's the size of the paying fanbase they're trying to appeal to.
There's definitely plenty of younger, savvy people at all the media outlets who are more than happy to pedal Pro-United stories because all the sad middle aged glory hunters from the 90's are happyclickercunts that lap it all up .
 
Blanchflower said:
If the (partial) sale to Ratcliffe hadn't happened he'd caning them still

Ever since that happened the coverage of United has been like propaganda
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Pff, United have been a media tool for clicks for at least 7 years.

They may have the odd season out of nowhere, but they'll never dominate in the way they did before. The league is just too strong now to let it happen.
 
Matt1882 said:
Pff, United have been a media tool for clicks for at least 7 years.

They may have the odd season out of nowhere, but they'll never dominate in the way they did before. The league is just too strong now to let it happen.
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They will massively improve on their current shitshow. They are a complete disaster on and off the pitch, they absolutely cannot get any worse. I think they have been lucky to get as many points as they have done, -2 GD. Bottom half by end of season.

Agree the league is stronger and fairer but they make a lot of money and can easily improve their spending / scouting, and by replacing Egg Head with an actual egg
 
Blanchflower said:
The Utd PR machine is suffocating at the moment - you can't get away from it
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Neil "we is us" Ashton no doubt trying to optimize where he can.

Does make me laugh with this lot, when you take stock of everything in the last couple of weeks all that's happened is a Rich non-dom has overpaid to buy 25% of a company. They've failed to bring in Dean Ashworth until June 2026 (unless they comp Newcastle which Radcliff says he wouldn't do) and they have spoken about rebuilding old trafford but with Public money, not his.

But Aston is spinning it as "he's not wasting any time".
 
Guido 🇺🇦 said:
Neil "we is us" Ashton no doubt trying to optimize where he can.

Does make me laugh with this lot, when you take stock of everything in the last couple of weeks all that's happened is a Rich non-dom has overpaid to buy 25% of a company. They've failed to bring in Dean Ashworth until June 2026 (unless they comp Newcastle which Radcliff says he wouldn't do) and they have spoken about rebuilding old trafford but with Public money, not his.

But Aston is spinning it as "he's not wasting any time".
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Every bad news story for them is spun by Ashton as being part of the overall plan - can be absolutely humiliating news and it still happens
 
YvesMasterclass said:
The absolute nonsense this fella comes up with week in week out.


View: https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1764603184260002022
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He's off his rocker
 
YvesMasterclass said:
The absolute nonsense this fella comes up with week in week out.


View: https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1764603184260002022
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Bloke's a complete nut-job.

Starks said:

View: https://twitter.com/FootballFactly/status/1764658457368801468?t=oEnYfpTfJ0AnNSwLf5GUmg&s=19
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Records broken by Erik ten Hag:- Manchester United hadn't lost 13 games by Christmas since 1930, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United hadn't gone 4 games in a row without scoring since 1992, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United hadn't lost back to back games to West Ham since 2007, until Erik Ten Hag- No Manchester United manager has conceded 20 goals to Liverpool/City in their first 7 games against them since Alfred Albut in the 1800s, until Erik Ten Hag.- Manchester United had never finished with as few as 5 points in the CL group stages in the competitions history, until Erik Ten Hag- No English club had ever conceded 15 goals in the CL group stages in the competitions history until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United had never lost 4 of 6 CL group games in the competitions history, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United had never failed to keep a clean sheet in 5 of 6 CL group games in the competitions history, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United had never lost 12 of the opening 23 games of the season, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United hadn't finished bottom of their CL group since 2006. Until Erik Ten Hag.- Bournemouth had never won at Old Trafford, Until Erik Ten Hag- Bournemouth had never scored 3 goals at Old Trafford, until Erik Ten Hag- Bournemouth had never kept a clean sheet at Old Trafford, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United had never lost 7 of the opening 16 PL games, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United hadn't lost back to back league games against Newcastle since 1972, until Erik Ten Hag.- Manchester United hadn't lost 3 games in a row to Newcastle United since 1922, until Erik Ten Hag- Newcastle hadn't kept 3 clean sheets in a row against Manchester United since 1897, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United had never lost 6 of the opening 14 games of a PL season, until Erik Ten Hag- No English team in CL history had ever conceded 14 goals in the first 5 CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United had never conceded 3+ goals in 4 different CL games in a season, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United had never lost a CL game they were leading by 2 goals, until Erik Ten Hag, twice since.- Manchester United hadn't lost a game they were leading by 2+ goals since 2014, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United had never dropped this many points from a winning position in CL history, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United had never conceded 4+ in two CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United hadn't lost 9 of the opening 17 games since 1974, until Erik Ten Hag- No team had ever give away 4 penalties in their first 4 CL group games in the competitions history, until Erik Ten Hag- No player as young as Roony Bardghji had scored against Manchester United in the CL, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United hadn't lost 8 of the opening 15 games in a season since 1962, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United hadn't lost 5 of their first 10 games at Old Trafford since 1931, until Erik Ten Hag- Newcastle hadn't won at Old Trafford since 2013, until Erik Ten Hag.- Newcastle hadn't won a cup game against Manchester Uniteds since 1994, until Erik Ten Hag.- Manchester United hadn't lost twice in a row to Newcastle since 1972, until Erik Ten Hag- No post war Manchester United manager had conceded 20 goals to City and Liverpool in their first 6 games against them, until Erik Ten Hag- Manchester United hadn't lost 5 of the opening 10 league games in 36 years, until Erik Ten Hag- Galatasaray hadn't won a game on English soil in 117 years of existing, until Erik Ten Hag.- Manchester United had never lost the opening 2 CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag.- Manchester United had never conceded 7 goals in the opening 2 CL group games, until Erik Ten Hag.

Wall of text mofos! :roflmao:
 
The new owners need to have a plan to get rid of Ten Haag at the end of the season. There are some increasingly deluded Man Utd fans who have been doing the "After X amount of games/seasons Arteta was here and Ten Haag was here so it just shows we need to back him and have patience" shtick, before Arteta people did it with Klopp without ever realising that not every appointment is the same, there are always signs if someone has a clue and Ten Haag most definitely does not. If he didn't have the aura of a disciplinarian he'd have been gone months back.
 
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