Does Anyone Still Supporting Keeping Kane?

[meaningless-friendly]

The England team is really good, he can get away with being a slug in that sort of team. He'd get away with it in the Mancity team. With us, where we dont have the players to overcome his lack of movement , he is shite.

But how did he get all those goals and assists just last season? It doesn't seem possible that he has lost all of his ability in a few months. It seems more plausible that the problem is a combination of mental (motivation) and Nuno's awful football.

Even though Jose was a defensive manager and quite shit for us, he had Kane motivated. The result was golden boot for goals and assists.

 

[bonaspur23]

His behaviour may not be by choice. He's a human, he may be struggling and, with a useless wet fish of a coach, unable to get back to the right mind set

He’s not human. He’s a robot that solely exists to entertain us supporters. Can’t be sure why he’s malfunctioning but I know for sure he’s not human.

 

[Doc]

I really think City would have spent up to 120m for Kane if Levy had accepted negotiations. He didn't, and all we've heard as a proposed bid is this 75 + 25m number. City know they're in the end-phase of Guardiola's time at the club and would have spent to push them over the line and win a CL imo. Kane will be a top-ish player again over the next 3 years, but he's limited physically and we're not good enough to support those limitations at the moment. Should have sold, and should have brought in a different manager.

 

[COckneY Spurs]

One of the leagues best players still on a 3 year contract had to remain at Spurs, we simply can’t keep selling them for the reason “I’m off to win trophies somewhere else”…That’s simply not good PR…

We see right now what not having Harry Kane is like, we are absolutely shite, of course we do have him in body but not in mind or soul, and that is an absolute disgrace on Harry’s part, not only as a Spurs player but also as England captain, really poor reflection of the guy as a selfish cunt….

Were we right to not sell? 100%
Should we have have complemented that decision (which seems like the 50Oth time we are saying this) by buying some quality players? 100%
Should we have brought in a manager that would inspire not only Kane, but others too? 100%
But we didn’t…..
So, as every game goes by it feels more and more like we made a mistake by not selling Kane, and that is absolute hindsight in full force, because no one ever expected Harry Kane of all people to act like the cunt he clearly is, underneath all the boy next door vibe he portrayed throughout his career to date….

Kane has won the battle of minds with the club, and his immediate sale must happen in January for the greater good of this club…This guy could have been the story of legend for generations of Spurs fans, as it is he will be the story of the guy who wanted to be regarded as one of the best ever, but he choked in every final he played, yet he couldn’t understand why the medals just don’t fall into his lap….

I honestly hope he becomes the first Spurs “superstar” to leave the club for selfish reasons and not actually win anything of significance when he does….

 

[FightingIllini]

In the string of catastrophic mistakes that have occurred since we were handed the Poch miracle from the heavens, the failure to sell Kane to City last summer is beginning to look like the coup de grace.

 

[iz futbal]

Well no one knows do they? So all the people saying 'we should have used the Man C offer as an opening point for negotiations' etc are talking bollocks, because they have no evidence whatsoever that there was any such offer.

Also the nonsense that Levy said he'll "refuse to pick up the phone" etc - how many times over the years have we heard chairman say a player is not for sale at any price, only to find that player move for a huge price a few weeks later? Anyone who seriously thinks that if Pep got a message through to Levy that he wanted to offer £500m for Kane, Levy would refuse to speak to him, must be absolutely bonkers. Everyone has a price, especially for a cold guy like Levy. The "I refuse to speak to City, Kane's not going anywhere" was just a clear message that Kane wasn't going anywhere without good money being paid, just as it is whenever any chairman says that at any club.

That offer of 100 million was given by many sources. And on top if their manager is openly saying that our owner is not negotiating, then it was levy who kept a player here who didnt want to be . When he does go now, it will be an even worse offer. Just really poor from the levy.

 

[Juno]

I dread to think what could have happened in the last few games if it weren't for Harry's goals. We would be out of the EFL Cup and struggling in the ECL and it was his goal and assist that helped us win v Newcastle.
We are in the position we are in because of the manager's shit tactics and selections and our not very good creative midfielders not because of Harry Kane.

Harry’s goals? He’s scored 1 goal in our 10 league games and that against second from bottom and winless Newcastle.

 

[Gmspurs]

Most of us were really happy when we kept him. Imagine the threads on here now if he was playing for City and scoring plenty.

Lose lose situation

Sell and he becomes re-energised to impress his new club and scores plenty.

Keep and we get the what looks to be a shell shocked Kane, contemplating his entire football future not just with us, but he's probably worried that it's over if he's forced to stay another 3 years here.

There was no 'winning play' for us


The only winning play would have been to sell and buy someone who turned out to be incredible for us - but our history with purchasing strikers indicates that that is fantasy land.

 

[todd1882]

If we had sold Dele and Eriksen at their peak, people would have gone ballistic at Levy and labelled us a selling club forever more with no ambition till that bald C*** GOES etc etc etc

Ok, so this is like public school then...teaching to the level of the dumbest kid in class. Is this really a way to advance? That's why folks are in leadership positions, to lead. Or is your suggestion that institutions should take heed of the least mentally capable amongst us? Critical thinking is hard for many on this board. I can't imagine why anyone in power would care what they think. They may be the squeakiest wheels but they are always wrong and should be ignored. In fact, it's probably good policy to do exactly the opposite of what those folks want...for anything and everything.

 

[Matt1882]

What were we supposed to negotiate when there was no offer on the table?

It's more complicated that a straightforward "should we have sold".

For years and years of having our best players sold with us as a stepping stone, we haven't done that. Even Walker went on our terms to a degree and none of us thought losing him for a fee of £50m was a bad call, really.

Selling your best player, who could yet still reach higher levels (most goals and assists last season) for a paltry £100m with three years left on his deal? We all would have been furious. All of us.

In hindsight it looks a mistake, but has he fallen off a cliff and lost ability? Have those injuries taken their toll? Does he just not give a shit? These are all variables to consider.

If he's shot, then obviously it's a mistake and we should have sold him, but we will never know how much City really wanted him, given the reported £75m + extras offer. Trying to reactivate discussions in the last week of the window when we wouldn't have been able to get a replacement was a non-starter too.

Obviously the way Kane is playing is only going to decrease any future fee too, but also opportunities. If you ran a business and you were looking to hire someone, this is his interview: would you hire him?

He's been badly advised, continues to be badly advised and isn't doing anything to appease anyone.

Bottom line, he signed a six year deal. With no escape clause. He was happy to do that at the time, he wasn't forced to.

As a good custodian of a football club you weigh up the pros and cons of a sale or not.
You actually speak to the player. Did anyone actually do that? Probably not.
Once you've spoken to the player and gauged their intention you then decide what the best course of action is. Is he fully committed to continuing as a player at THFC if we say no? If yes put a new deal on the table and make it public he's not going. If he's not fully committed, you then work on getting the most money you can get.

And this is where it's hard for people to understand. Harry Kane is not a car or a house. His value to THFC is in how he performs. We can't control that.
Which means he's only worth as much as anyone is willing to pay. If only one club is open to buying him and he's only interested in that one club the only way to proceed is to actually fucking talk to that club and NEGOTIATE. Not answering the phone and acting like a prick until the Sun or Sky Sports report they're willing to pay Y instead of X is gross misconduct.

We now have no Kane. We have no money to replace Kane. This should set a president with fans who for years have moaned about selling players.
When they really want to go, it's best they go.

 

[Matt1882]

Using hindsight you’d obviously say yes we should have sold him, he’s been a piece of shit this season, taking the piss out of us as fans that have supported him through thick and thin

But at the time it looked like a great move to keep hold of him

I said all of this repeatedly throughout the transfer window. It's not hindsight if I and others said it before hand

 

[Matt1882]

I would have expected Kane to behave better than he has. He always came across as quite down to earth. But this is like Jekyll and Hyde stuff now. Since the end of last season he has turned into a different person. So with hindsight, yes should have been sold.
Has there been as much as a peep from the guy on TV or social media lately (outside of the England camp)? Or is the chap hiding and shirking any responsibility?

His behaviour may not be by choice. He's a human, he may be struggling and, with a useless wet fish of a coach, unable to get back to the right mind set

 

[Murphy]

In the euros, we could see how terrible Kane was compared to his england teammates. The only way was downhill , and he is rolling down that hill fast. Next year he will be worse. He can still be somewhat restored if he played for a perfect team, but for us he is done.

The terrible Kane that scored four goals?

 

[Lenny Hatchet]

The deeper issue is if we sold him say for 75m to 125m are we capable of spending it wisely, to produce a competitive team.
NO .
Levy will waste it on young punts , anybody considered top quality will not come , ambition and wages will override their decision but the club would never meet the asking price anyway.
This team needs £250 million to seriously compete for top 4 , consistent trophies , spent over 2 seasons. Players will be signed largely that no top 4 club would consider. There will never be a rebuild just a half hearted mess .
Newcastle will blow us out the water in 2 years , .ENICs football model has failed were ever they have stinked out .
We are the Hotspur catch 22 club.

 

[Bazali]

75M plus add ons was a shite deal, I’m not sure I would take that now? Perhaps in Jan

We won’t get £60 million in Jan

 

[iz futbal]

We won’t get £60 million in Jan

Thinking 100million or there abouts is not enough for Kane is just being in denial about his physical condition.

 

[ChickenTonight]

This is the legacy he can have with us if he wants. It's not too late.

 

[Legacy Lilywhite]

What were we supposed to negotiate when there was no offer on the table?

The saddest of all sad realities for H. Loads of manoeuvring for Haaland. Literally nothing credible from any major club for him.

 

[Eli]

Supporting keeping him and letting him go on the cheap are different things. Levy can’t win here.

Levy would have been damned if he did, damned if he didn’t…..he hadn’t figured on Kane a fully grown adult with a wife & family acting like a petulant child that’s the culprit.

 

[KaneDomBadBoy]

He's not a 100 million player.
He's worth 75 million and that's because he's built a lot of goodwill over the years