And if England beat the Danes by 2 or 3, and/or play well, no doubt you wont post in this thread at all.
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And if England beat the Danes by 2 or 3, and/or play well, no doubt you wont post in this thread at all.
It's one game. They didn't struggle to score in the last tournament before exiting against tournament favourites France. We scored 13 goals in 5 games, only one of them being a penalty.
If we struggle to score and create against Denmark and Slovenia then everyone will have every right to complain.
If we lose the game I’ll be very angry. If we win it I’m not going to go mental over a poor performance but another win in a major tournament.
These group stages are about getting to the next stage, not entertaining anybody. There were things I liked and things I disliked against Serbia. I would like to see improvements on the bits I didn’t like but I won’t pretend I thought the performance was terrible.
I think he's safe of being found to have taken anything 'performance enhancing'
WTF why can't people complain now?
Surely you critique on a game to game basis, if England played well and people were praising them then no-one's gonna be policing opinions.
Stop gaslighting......
It's not.
I've posted all the stats in the past.......... The patterns go back as far as pre Euro-2021.
They already do.
Makes not taking a fit actual LB to the tourney look fucking irresponsible that's for sure.
6 past Iran, 3 past Wales, 3 past Senegal, then in qualifying, 5 past Italy over two games in qualifying, before that 7 past Macedonia etc..
Of course amongst that plenty of low scores when we were out of form as no team will be in form throughout an entire qualifying campaign or during an entire tournament but erm ... why do we sort of ignore the other stuff when it comes to Southgate?
I thought in the last world cup we scored shit loads, we then played in a way nobody expected vs France and had most of the play, but Kane missed a pen, we went out and oh yeah .. Southgate got the same kind of criticism anyway.
WTF why can't people complain now?
Surely you critique on a game to game basis, if England played well and people were praising them then no-one's gonna be policing opinions.
Criticising aspects of the game and performance is fine. I've done so myself. But the doom and gloom merchants are annoying as fuck.
We won despite a fair few players being nowhere near their best. We kept a clean sheet against a more than useful attack. We conceded ONE shot target in 90 minutes. And despite Serbia being given praise for keeping the ball well, we still finished the game having edged the possession, and with a higher pass completion rate. Not to mention there was some excellent individual performances.... Bellingham, Rice, Guehi.
It was hardly the disaster some are making it out to be.
I'd gladly admit I was wrong actually, but knowing Southgate, he'd manage to make a 2 or 3-0 win as depressing as possible.
Happy clap delusional merchants are equally as annoying, just let people vent ffs.
How is anyone a happy clap merchant if they're also happy to list the negatives from a performance?
Clearly you're just on a bit of a wind up.
It's not being a doom & gloom merchant to correctly point out that England's problems are being caused by the manager and that they've been evident for a long time.
The "it's just one game" card is implying untrue.
You acting as a 'crash' barrier for cvriticism of Southgate just denies justified criticism being afford the traction it deserves.
It is EXACTLY what Cundy was doing on TalkSPort last night.... But he's being PAID to be a contrarian to keep the debate alive.
I too think there were a few very good individual performances last night..... The problem is the team is only going to get by on individual brilliance and yet the manager is actually neutralising them when eg Bellingham does play a blinder.
I don't even rate Southgate. Who would?
I just don't see how people are so concerned about a nervy opening game we won. Winning when you can play much better has never been a bad thing in football. I'm confident we'll put in better performance against the Danes, who I also don't think are a better team than Serbia, though until they play each other and we see who progresses nobody can say for sure.
Cos that's generally HOW the manager manifests this team.
FFS.... It's NOT "just one game".
Unlike the WC; there is no Iran or Panama for us to stat-pad and put 6 past in this competition.
Our best players are fighting against the tide of Southgate-ball.....
RicharliSon
- You're in denial.The only way this team has a meaningful tournament is IF Gary surpasses himself.
The only way this team has a meaningful tournament is IF Gary surpasses himself.
Not in denial at all! It's not like I'm screaming from the rooftops that it's coming home. I don't even agree with Southgate's squad, there's at least 4 players I think he should have taken that he didn't.
But ultimately a win is a win and I know we're capable of more as the tournament progresses.
If people don't agree with you they are trolls and Wum's, fantastic.