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So why then does most of the support on this forum and elsewhere 'hope' to finish top 4? There is only a handful who think we should aim to win the league, not just qualify for CL.
Great post. I am getting frustrated with Conte but this is a nice piece of perspective. Also share your position on ENIC- I see bad and good.
Newcastle have, in their favour, no European football to navigate around.
And although we should get out of the group, it's unlikely we go much further in the knockout stages.
I disagree. The approach from 14-18 is exactly what is needed on a budget. The press is the great equalizer. We are not going to be able to do it the same way at City, Chelsea, United, etc. We are not going to be able to win anything attempting to emulate them but on a budget.
the very reason so many of our players looked better than they were intrinsically is because we pressure and the collective worked their asses off for each other. When we no longer pressed we were stuck with the parts no longer being greater than their sum.
I do not think we caught lightning in a bottle. I believe we had a squad young and athletic enough to carry out the plans. We should have replenished earlier and that would have necessitated moving folks on...Liverpool can no longer press like they used to...how's that working out for them? Same problem even though they've replenished.
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How many semis and finals have we been in during those 21 years?
Never understood the logic with this line of thinking. ENIC get credit for getting to semi finals/finals but then after that it’s the managers responsibility?(who by the way they employed) Surely they just haven’t built a good enough side/squad to get over the line. Even if you think in a handful of those games we had the better team then they haven’t been able to build a winning mentality or culture within the club. The number of those semi/final defeats spread over many managers can’t be a coincidence. They are the one constant. If I had to guess I reckon the player incentive bonus’ will be for CL qualification rather than winning trophies.
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If you’re going to blame ENIC for a Redknapp side featuring Bale and Modric losing to relegated Pompey then this thread has lost all sense of proportion.
Worse than I thought!
The crux of the trophy issue is that the period in which we have been a truly top team is actually quite small, a lot smaller than people would like to think and then beyond that, during those periods (a year under Redknapp & a couple under Poch) we only had a strong first XI and did not have the additional depth required to fight on all fronts - this comes back to finances and the fact that we have been playing catch up off the field, not that people like hearing that.
Under Poch we we took the league seriously and ckearly weren't just happy scraping 4th which is often the accusation, we aimed higher than that and although we ultimately failed to win the title or CL i would not swap those seasons for a domestic trophy. With Redknapp he really should have had the FA Cup sewn up that season we lost to Portsmouth in the semi and losing the semi to Chelsea 5-1 in the year they finished mid table was pretty bad also - but for us at that time the two 4th place finishes and breaking that top 4 monopoly were big strides forwards.
It's actually a collective fault - the board/managers/players.
ENIC's job is to build the infrastructure for the team to push on to become successful, you can argue whilst they've mis-stepped along the way we've had more than enough opportunities to win more than 1 trophy, 13/14 semi's tells you that we've been good enough to get to the latter rounds of competitions and if that's the case we should have been good enough to pick up a few pots along the way.
Saying that they are solely at fault is just lazy and passing the buck, I will admit that they have had a history of prioritising other things (like top 4) than trophies in the past but let's not act like it's all on them, like I said we've scored a grand total of 0 goals in the last 4 finals we've participated in and look at the kind of players we've had at our disposal.
CAREFUL!!!!
The anti Levy Cult will be calling you a cuck and a bot shortly.
and thats why we dont win anything
not so much hojberg but dier, rewarding average garbage a new contract
we are not acting like a big club and get rid of players past their sell by date
Why? Semi finals/finals are tougher both technically and mentally. They’ve been spread over many managers/players, yes in those games there are individual moments where managers/players don’t do well enough and in that sense it’s collective. But when the next group of managers and players fail and the next, you have to start attributing the majority of the responsibility to the constant. It’s not lazy it’s just how any business would look at it. They are either not employing/buying the right people or they are not implementing a mentality at the club.