No, we play better without Kane and get results without him.
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Live look at bonaspur23 trying to putKane’s criticisms are completely fair. The relentless Kane criticism only comes fromsammyspurs and
KaneDomBadBoy who we all know are the village idiots.
Just ignore them and make all our lives easier.
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and I on ignore for more than 2 minutes.
Nah we don't. Not interested in your rubbish sample sizes taken over small numbers of games during a period spanning years. In which you sometimes include pre-season games, or a game in the EFL cup vs Chelsea which we were losing till Kane came on. Agenda filled, cherry picked stats.
Not one single manager has dropped Kane when fit, they all know how important he is, all reasonable fans know too.
The guy gets away with murder I'm past caring as you can tell. People let son get away with absolute shockers but absolutely tear other players to shreds. Never been called a racist for critising dier or tanguy but woah there you say a bad word about son and you hate Asians :contethumb:
Naw, no pre season games included.
We just play better without Kane. He adds very little to our overall team play and actual results.
We've been fine as long as we have Son and Moura up front. Add a decent striker that can win headers, be physical, and decent hold up play, and we'll be a much better side.
Without Kane, we can actually play to out strengths, not try to play through Kane as our target man which is clearly not working.
Thought he was superb against Villa. By far the most dangerous player on the day, that's the only performance this season where I've watched him and thought he was close to the best he can produce. Otherwise he's scored some goals here and there, but been on the periphery of games.
Yeah Son isn't consistent but we need him. Without him we just completely collapse.
Remember, even when Kane's playing, when Son goes down, we lose 3-0 to Palace, draw 2-2 to Rennes, can't get a goal against Burnley until Son comes on, and get knocked out by Dynamo in Europa in a shocking 3-0 loss.
When Kane goes down, we play well and get results. Last three games against PL teams we beat the PL champions (City), Champions League winner in the EFL semis (Chelsea), and Wolves.
Not turning this thread in to the Kane thread. You're welcome to your opinion we play better without Kane, I disagree.
Yeah but I mean those top top performances that have truly world class moments in them like Chelsea at Wembley the Burnley goal the goal vs Woolwich last season. Where has that player gone.
Agreed with that too.
Thing is Kane moves like a depressed pregnant cow right now. It affects how everyone else plays. He actually is slower and less mobile than Ndombele.
He’s still there in the same way that Son has always had some extended streaks of being not good. He’ll come back around.
He’s not Messi or Ronaldo. If he consistently had those games, we’d be talking about him on that level. But he’s always been this player. He’s still one of our best.
It might do .. but Son and Lucas have been in great positions which have nothing to do with Kane, and they have fucked them up .. repeatedly. Son has had our best chances of late to change games and he's not taken them. Even in a game where we played well vs Newcastle, Son himself was quiet. He's just not playing with enough drive, rarely threatens outside of goals these days.
Kane's form/lack of energy is shit, and he deserves criticism for it. But I don't buy the idea he's causing others to play badly one bit. I've seen far worse CF's in teams where other players consistently step up and do their own thing.
Exactly, he's playing like he always does. He's got 4 goals in 10 apps which is on track for 15 PL goals which is in line with what he's done in the past. 15 PL goals for a winger is still near the top as far as production goes. No one should compare him to Salah or maybe even Mane because I think they're different class.
Sell him for 75 million in January to anyone that'll have him
Oh Son has definitely lost some of his zzzzing as well. But Kane has been atrocious on a different level that as a kane fanboy I think he should be dropped.
We do need him that's why I'm so pissed off with his performances. It's not a question of ivwant him gone I want to see his form return. He's been nowhere near his best forcquite some time now and it's alarming.
I honestly think they've been as bad as each other post Aston Villa, which is a decent stretch of games. They've contributed a couple of assists/a goal or so each in that time, but mostly performances ranging from 4-6/10.
Son's worked harder which means he gets more of a pass, but performance wise he's been dreadful. Both of them are in alarmingly bad form at the same time, which is killing us going forward.
You're right about him not looking like the same player for about a year now
Honestly, I think he might just be getting old. He's 30 in a few months. There are a lot of wingers that begin to hit a wall around 29-30. Especially ones that rely on pace like Son. We saw it with Bale and others too.
He'll need to transition to a role further up front and more centrally, maybe as a second striker type of role? I think he's starting to lose it as that fast, dynamic winger.