Redknapp spent at Portsmouth and won the fa cup. He had the ability as a manager. His fucking around with England job meant Levy got cold feet.
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Poch for me every day of the week. Consistently there or there about for several seasons - when we needed to refresh the squad it didn’t happen for 3 transfer windows.
By the time we ended up with dead loss signings I think the energy had gone.
The fact that we have the new stadium and are back at the top table is his legacy from working within a very tight budget.
His downfall was not letting a director of football in on the show.
And to be fair, many knowledgable people thought N’bumbler was going to be the dogs bollocks so even that can’t really be held against him imo.
Still grieves me that the lazy fat cunt is still drawing a wage from us whilst pissing his career away on loan.
By the time we ended up with dead loss signings I think the energy had gone.
The fact that we have the new stadium and are back at the top table is his legacy from working within a very tight budget.
His downfall was not letting a director of football in on the show.
And to be fair, many knowledgable people thought N’bumbler was going to be the dogs bollocks so even that can’t really be held against him imo.
Still grieves me that the lazy fat cunt is still drawing a wage from us whilst pissing his career away on loan.
This is it, you eoend tens of millions onpkayers and their failure or success dictates your clubs failure or success do it us vital to pay whatever the very best scouts ask and give them control. No point skimping on scouts, it means you waste huge sums off the back of their dodgy advice.
Poch never had anyone like that Mike Edwards guy at Liverpool. His relationship with Klopp is the secret of their success.
I think Poch was relying on scouts rather than a director with a shared vision. I really hope he learns that lesson and comes back one day.
I think Poch was relying on scouts rather than a director with a shared vision. I really hope he learns that lesson and comes back one day.
I chose Poch but only just. If he was backed in summer 2018, those new players might have made a difference in the CL final and there were a couple more instances but can't put all the blame on that, he had chances to win trophies and he blew it.
I liked AVB's attitude he took every trophy seriously, Poch and Harry didn't. Harry could have got us a cup or two if we had got someone like Tevez. Mourinho was a spent force when he arrived.
I liked AVB's attitude he took every trophy seriously, Poch and Harry didn't. Harry could have got us a cup or two if we had got someone like Tevez. Mourinho was a spent force when he arrived.
As I've said on many occasions, it was a scandal, that we would regret for many years, that we failed to reinforce this team over two (or was it three?) transfer windows:
Lloris, Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Rose, Walker, Dembele, Wanyama, Dele (in his prime), Eriksen (ditto), Son, Kane, With Dier, Winks (when he was an England international - and a good player) and Trippier also available.
It's taken six years, several managers and lots of money to get a squad assembled that even starts to resemble the above.
Let's hope Conte can fit all the pieces together - only 49 days to wait!
Lloris, Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Rose, Walker, Dembele, Wanyama, Dele (in his prime), Eriksen (ditto), Son, Kane, With Dier, Winks (when he was an England international - and a good player) and Trippier also available.
It's taken six years, several managers and lots of money to get a squad assembled that even starts to resemble the above.
Let's hope Conte can fit all the pieces together - only 49 days to wait!
for me I would say there was 2 occasions
Rednapp when levy got him saha & Nelson, if only Levy had got 2 top players who knows where we would be now, there wasn't the money in the game then, we cpuld have gained a big match on City & Liverpool
and the Leicester season, If levy had got Charlie Austin in Jan window a few goals from him & resting or having extra striker could have won us the league
if pushed i would say the rednapp season was the one when everything could have changed and pushed us forward earlier
Rednapp when levy got him saha & Nelson, if only Levy had got 2 top players who knows where we would be now, there wasn't the money in the game then, we cpuld have gained a big match on City & Liverpool
and the Leicester season, If levy had got Charlie Austin in Jan window a few goals from him & resting or having extra striker could have won us the league
if pushed i would say the rednapp season was the one when everything could have changed and pushed us forward earlier
Redknapp. We all remember the quality of football, which I still think of with fondness. Had the club improved in depth, the league title was possible even at a time when man utd, Chelsea and man city were there or there abouts. Poch peaked when everyone else was shit except energiser bunny Leicester and I don't think the failings were down the player quality, more managerial bum flapping when the pressure got cranked up near the end
Mane wanted wages that broke our wage structure, at the time without new stadium he would have been by far our highest paid player. Hindsight is a wonderful thing we probs should have done it, but I can see why the club didn't. Sissoko over Wijnaldum was just stupid cant defend that. But also Poch loved Sissoko or he wouldn't have kept playing him.
To answer OG question Harry should have been backed and I'm sure he would have if he didn't down tools and throw himself at England whilst fucking our season. But that Window we could of had Aguero and Rossi (before his knees blew up) and ended up with Saha and Nelson still haunts he to this day
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Spot on. There were no lessons learned though as that team in 15-17 had some serious talent too
Spot on. There were no lessons learned though as that team in 15-17 had some serious talent too
Out of the 27 signings for Poch:
Signings:
Great = Son, Toby
Decent=Dier, Moura, Davies, Sess, Llorente, Davies, Dele (Under Poch was good)
Bad = 18 others.
So its actually 66.6667 % were bad
Sonny was Poch's signing though. He also tried to get him when he was with Southampton but Son refused. Finally got him after he came to Spurs. Which turned out great.
Another thing to remember is that Levy and Hitchen were always in charge (or another shit mix) and so maybe the question should be if Poch was backed with Paratici could they have done more? I think we would have potentialy made better signings.
I've gone for Mourinho. Sit down at the back!!
I wouldn't trust AVB, Redknapp or Poch to use the money well.
Redknapp would just sign a few mates he knows.
AVB would have fucked it up. He just did. Even if he got good players he was a fake football manager.
Poch didn't/doesn't understand squad football. He'd have had a great starting 11 and a rubbish bench.
I wouldn't trust AVB, Redknapp or Poch to use the money well.
Redknapp would just sign a few mates he knows.
AVB would have fucked it up. He just did. Even if he got good players he was a fake football manager.
Poch didn't/doesn't understand squad football. He'd have had a great starting 11 and a rubbish bench.
Mou was past his prime big time, and on top of that he just refuse to see where he makes mistake and improve on them. He is superb stubborn. AVB overrated as hell, and never was really good at first place.
Both Redknapp and Pochettino has done great for us.
That being said, neither of them even backed big time would have won the title.
I still want to see Pochettino taking on a top club in a competitive league and see how he will doing.
PSG is not a measuring stick. CL is not a measuring stick as well.
I believe Pochettino hit his ceiling with us, and he was also very lucky to have a lot of players in their full prime.
Our CL run in 18-19 was extremely lucky. We barely got out of the group stage, and was done due to we win 1-0 against Inter, and lost 2-1 to them.
Then the same thing with City at 1/4 final, as well as super lucky with the disallowed goal and few other situation, incredible luck next round against Ajax, and our luck runs out next round and a terrible final against Liverpool.
There isn't a single season where i can see and say, okay if we have this or that player we would have definitely would won the title.
You can say we were close in 2016-2017, but we actually wasn't. It was Chelsea all over, and not a close one at all, no matter the difference was 7 points.
After that both City and Liverpool become unreachable.
Both Redknapp and Pochettino has done great for us.
That being said, neither of them even backed big time would have won the title.
I still want to see Pochettino taking on a top club in a competitive league and see how he will doing.
PSG is not a measuring stick. CL is not a measuring stick as well.
I believe Pochettino hit his ceiling with us, and he was also very lucky to have a lot of players in their full prime.
Our CL run in 18-19 was extremely lucky. We barely got out of the group stage, and was done due to we win 1-0 against Inter, and lost 2-1 to them.
Then the same thing with City at 1/4 final, as well as super lucky with the disallowed goal and few other situation, incredible luck next round against Ajax, and our luck runs out next round and a terrible final against Liverpool.
There isn't a single season where i can see and say, okay if we have this or that player we would have definitely would won the title.
You can say we were close in 2016-2017, but we actually wasn't. It was Chelsea all over, and not a close one at all, no matter the difference was 7 points.
After that both City and Liverpool become unreachable.
Lucked very much balanced itself out I thought during that run
That 2-1 win over Chavas at home, I still remember they got 2 men sent off. But somehow we wasted a few good opportunities to extend the lead. Then they scored back 1 goal at last. That was really frustration. Even though the foramtion was still 4-4-2, Harry adopted a more disciplined approach at that game. (more or less had the same setup in previous game against woolwich ).
I chose Poch but I think it's more about the other managers than it was about him exactly. There's no doubt that he wasn't backed sufficiently at all and he did an amazing job considering that. He could have had more and a longer run of success with a strengthened squad, but I do think that Poch was also fairly inflexible in how he would allow us to play, and I think we would have maybe seen the same ultimate result.
I do think that Levy knows he screwed up as well not backing him, and is at least a part of his decision making with Conte.
I do think that Levy knows he screwed up as well not backing him, and is at least a part of his decision making with Conte.