Man City ban overturned.

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Good for Klopp and JM for at least injecting some kind of rational thought in thier reactions to this. I don't know a much about FFP rules but if they were "disguising equity funds as sponsorship contributions" and banned by UEFA then what evidence shows they weren't disguising funds? I haven't heard mention of that. Just a bunch of peope saying, See we/they didn't do anything wrong! We/they deserve everything we've/they've cheated towards, apologize and tell me how great we/they are!

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Have you been caught with 1000's of images of children on your pc? Been spotted on camera commiting rape or murder? Guilty of genocide or hiding weapons of mass destruction? Then why not contact the Manchester City legal team c/o the Etihad stadium Ashton New Rd, Manchester M11 3FF.
 
Ricko93 said:
You do know that the UAE is not the same place as Qatar not that FFP has anything to do with world cups and alleged bribery although it was the big clubs that put pressure on UEFA to change FFP to stop city so as to preserve the status quo so they could act as a cartel so I guess you could see some similarities between the two in terms of lack of fairness due process etc. but Qatar was new money perhaps corruptly but not proven spreading football. FFP was old money unfairly stopping new money from spreading football
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I did know that, thanks Ricko.
I was merely implying that since you were conveiniently explaining away the blatant corruption at Man City you might be able to do the same for the Qataris.
 
Ricko93 said:
City LAWYER I just wanted to give our perspective on the issue since. A lot of city fans have spent the last however many years becoming experts on accounts FFP UEFA politics etc etc All the stuff a lot of other fan still ignore with there own club let alone rival clubs. We would all rather just be interested in football but all the other stuff is increasingly important.

This was an independent court that found us not guilt. The allegations come from out of context emails. This whole issue was investigated by UEFA with the original punishment for over spending and we where not completely but effectively cleared and that investigation was based on expert opinions and audited accounts not allegedly hacked or stolen emails many years late which are out of context and may or may not show what happened I can say I am going to do something does not mean I actually do it.

Our INDEPENDENTLY audited accounts, show no sponsorship from related parties and they follow UK and international standards and laws.

UEFA disagreed but could not really either prove it or prove any inflation. So as compromise they limited to secondary sponsors from increasing the value for a period of time and the other sponsor Etihad they said was fair value.

Its a matter of public record who owns Etihad and the other sponsors from the UAE and its no the Sheik nor are they as connected to our owner through management as the media would have you believe.

The emails which the media would have you believe are a smoking gun are out of context and and do not refer to our owner but HH which is Mohammed bin Zayed AL Nahyan who is the crown prince the top dog. They reference companies which we know are sponsoring city and its a matter of public record that they are and that they are not owned or controlled by our owner.

Its hardly surprising that City are able to spend so much these days given the high level of sponsorship mostly not from the UAE the lack of debt interest repayments or owners taking profit the high level or prize winnings the decent stadium we also make more than any club at the moment through sales of youth players. CFG also allows us to share costs such as scouting management finance marketing etc etc over multiple clubs

Despite the above clearly the narrative is that City got off on a technicality
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Corrected for you!

Comes across like something written by a legal person, they never seem to like using commas, etc. in their documents. I wouldn’t be surprised to see this copy and pasted on a number of opposition fan forums!
 
Fattynomates said:
You got off on a technicality, your cheaters its as simple as that, your titles only came about after spending over £1.5 billion since 2008 and even now you're still not even the biggest club in Manchester? :levylol:
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Yep......and Pep has spent 700M of that since 2016..........but now says he needs a 150M injection to freshen things up this summer ha ha.......genius.

They will never get credit for their tainted success anywhere globally by other fans regardless of what their own "bring down the cartel" fans believe and simply they just have no respect in the game outside of their blue bubble. Dont believe their narrative that they were found not guilty either..........their guilt could not be enforced due to time limitations and their fine was reduced from 30M to 10M probably because the right people had their offshore retirement accounts padded.

Actually, just reading back that first paragraph, how embarassing is it that they got beat by so much in the league this year by a club that while not popular on here to many, has done it the right way.
 
Ricko93 said:
You do know that the UAE is not the same place as Qatar not that FFP has anything to do with world cups and alleged bribery although it was the big clubs that put pressure on UEFA to change FFP to stop city so as to preserve the status quo so they could act as a cartel so I guess you could see some similarities between the two in terms of lack of fairness due process etc. but Qatar was new money perhaps corruptly but not proven spreading football. FFP was old money unfairly stopping new money from spreading football
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Sorry, but you may try and pretend modern day slavery doesn't exist but we all know that it does in UAE. You can try and deflect ( be an apologist or spin it) but Man City are well and truely part of the watering down of that regimes behaviour. Throw money around and launder it around and distance itself from that behaviour. Sorry, but it's kind of pointless being involved in progressiveness if all your recent success comes directly from this appalling behaviour. I know as a supporter ,(or perhaps PR guy) it may hurt to accept the facts, but the facts are you are just money and dodgy money to say the least and your success is tainted.
Perhaps try your luck down the road at those whores with that UAE airlines stadium.
 
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Money can't buy you love.... but it sure can buy anything and everything else!

The reason we're not at the Top table, is 'cos we haven't bought or bribed our way there....
 
The Swellhead Spur said:
It's genuinely fucking evil, killing people, using them as slaves, yet the more clubs they buy to more people will 'like' the owners and what they stand for
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To be fair, it's what the 'Great' British Empire (other Empires are availiable) were built on for generations!

But yes, this is a footballing equivalent!
 
1882 said:
Does this mean we WON'T qualify for the EL now??

To be fair, I wouldn't want it through default... but at least we won't have the ignominy of qualifying having finished in the lowest league position in history!
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EL places still likely to drop to 7th given league/FA cup winners so we've got a good chance. Not sure what the permutations are if Wolves/Man U win EL though...
 
Blanchflower said:
I wonder if City will further appeal the 10m Euro fine?

I'm mean, if they are not in the wrong here then surely they will want the record set straight......or will they be absolutely delighted with the outcome and never mention this ever again......
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The fine was upheld for the club hindering the investigation. Not for any wrongdoing against the rules as laid out. It wouldn't surprise me to see them fight it, but it's less likely that they'd get the result they are after in my opinion. And I'm not even sure where they can go after CAS? European Court of Justice?
 
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