Maradona

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If anyone hasn't seen the film by Asif Kapadia you definitely need to check it out ASAP. There is no way you can watch it without gaining a lot of respect for him as a player and person. But when his troubles start you really sympathise with him and what he goes through due to his fame and the pressures of being maradona. Inspiring and sad
 
The guy was a genius, and a fascinating if flawed character. The rock ‘n’ roll star of football.

Personally I think Messi is better for consistency, but Maradona is undoubtably the Titan of footballers. What a legend. RIP you fabulous bastard.
 
In terms of pure footballing ability I've never seen better. His touch and balance and mastery of a football are the best ever without doubt, plus he had pace and guts and a very strong desire to succeed. I honestly don't think we'll ever see a player quite like him again.
 
Maradona has carried average teams to league titles and even World Cups. Messi has never had the same impact for Argentina and at club level he has usually played in dominant teams.
This isn't the place for that debate. It's not even a debate really. Messi is quite obviously better.

Even Diego himself said it.

Messi's achievements at international level are underrated.

He had Diego Maradona as his manager at a WC for god sake. As fun as it was seeing him belly dive in the pissing rain when they qualified. His tactics were quite mad.
 
Messi has never led his country to WC glory nor taken a team outside of the elite and made them Champions of their country. Twice.

In many ways his exploits for Napoli really show what a great player he was more so than '86.

Messi has been in his comfort zone at Barca all his career, surrounded by world class talents. Xavi AND Iniesta in the same team? No wonder Barca dominated as did Spain as well when those two were in their pomp.

Third CL title Messi won he had both Neymar and Suarez for company.

Messi is undoubtedly in the Top 5 players of all time but both Maradona and Pele are better.

The Messi fanboys should be gracious and accept this.

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Completely agree.
Zidane is also in my top 5 for similar reasons. Players like Maradona and Zidane had that extra something that means they can drag a team kicking and screaming towards glory.
 


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I'm not Lineker's biggest fan but I doubt it was his intention to offend here, I think he's Tweeted it without realising how bad it sounds!

As for Diego RIP, greatest ever IMV. Can see arguments for Messi et al. but I reckon Maradona had the higher ceiling and would flourish in the modern game too. Why? Better protection, the balance tilted in favour of the forward, more fouls given, and the rubbish defending everywhere nowadays.
 
Absolutely.

Napoli had been purchasing good talent for a few years before Maradona.

Maradona was like their Aguero. Before that Napoli had been like City buying the likes of Elano and Robinho in comparison. Maradona marked when they started spending more wisely.

The idea Napoli were nowhere before him is a myth. It's like saying Liverpool were nowhere before VDV.
This is complete bullshit.
There was Fernando Di Napoli and a young Ciro Ferrara. Apart from those two, there weren't really any notable big names.
Also, the entire squad was Italian apart from Maradona.

Your comparisons and those of your friend who wish to soil the memory of Maradona, well, those comparisons are disgusting and typically English. The pure hatred of the Argentinian. Why does the Englander feel like this?
 
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