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Everyone seems to ignore this point every time bus-conductor mentions it
There is a direct correlation between us going from title challengers to midtable fodder without an away win in almost a year when Poch left and Sissokos growing number of appearances in the "heart of our midfield" over that time period
It would be harsh and incorrect to put all of that on him but he is a big part of it , he simply isnt good enough
Sorry for the 3rd post in a row, but I have a question for you: which games this season have NOT featured Sissoko as a starter, or in fact at all?
Everton (on at half time)
Newcastle (didn't play)
Rapid Vienna (didn't play)
What happened in those games? Why is our form better when he starts?
Strange how often he finds himself surrounded by opposition players. Can only think of two reasons:Bloke has 4 players around him and not a single teammate showing for the ball.
He is obviously limited which is why he shouldn't start the majority of games, but it's those same limitations that make him such a problem vs the better teams,It doesn't get missed. It's because Blakey doesn't express it in those terms (perfect example being his league points post).... He expresses it in terms that Sissoko is shit therefor X and gives no heed to the absence of those he replaced or why. Further, he (and others) are waging a one-way war with the unargued notion that MS is an amazing, highly talented player even though it's conceded that he is limited.
Denying MS the credit he deserves even when he has contributed excellently at times is bogus.
Anyone that denies Sissoko's contribution to us reaching the CL final is merely blinded by bias.
its funny you say this because he's normally good at escaping the press, despite his obvious defects.Strange how often he finds himself surrounded by opposition players. Can only think of two reasons:
1. He’s hiding from the ball.
2. The oppo know there’s a shit touch coming up and a chance to steal the ball.
I’d suggest it’s a bit of both.
Oh, there’s certainly times I’ve seen him scamper 40 yards up the field to relieve the pressure on us. My comment was a bit tongue in cheek, but also has firm elements of truth in it. He does normally seem to be the most marked player on the pitch and I can’t think of any reasons for this other than the ones I offered.its funny you say this because he's normally good at escaping the press, despite his obvious defects.
Oh come on.
He came on at HT against Everton when it was 0-0 and we ended up losing 1-0.
Jose fucked that up on the basis of who he took OFF.... At 0-0 he took creativity off and brought on grafters.
Of course.
And Im not blaming Sissoko for the Everton loss. Its just weird to even use that game in an argument.
Would be like saying we are better off workout Ndombele because it was 1-1 when we took him off against Southampton and when we took him off won 5-2... Or we were 1-0 up against Newcastle when he came on and drew 1-1.
I'm not sure it would tbh..
Without the alleged hinderance of Sissoko why did we not stroll past Newcastle?
Because their goalkeeper played a blinder?
I can't remember Lloris having to make a single save.
Oh, there’s certainly times I’ve seen him scamper 40 yards up the field to relieve the pressure on us. My comment was a bit tongue in cheek, but also has firm elements of truth in it. He does normally seem to be the most marked player on the pitch and I can’t think of any reasons for this other than the ones I offered.
Harsh and wrong imvEveryone seems to ignore this point every time bus-conductor mentions it
There is a direct correlation between us going from title challengers to midtable fodder without an away win in almost a year when Poch left and Sissokos growing number of appearances in the "heart of our midfield" over that time period
It would be harsh and incorrect to put all of that on him but he is a big part of it , he simply isnt good enough
You’re unintentionally funny sometimes mateIn the same way that he was responsible for Pardew's MOTY award, Poch's title challenge, or our CL run you mean?
My point is, a whole bunch of teams and managers haven't exactly been better off for employing Sissoko have they. I have just tried to rebut that bogus argument, that there is evidence3 of teams being "better" or "great" with Sissoko. The evidence generally leans the other way.
Jose being fucked will depend on a few things, the biggest one being Kane, who's so far directly involved in 78% of all our goals, but Sissoko definitely needs to be improved on no matter what happens.
I don't know why you keep cranking this accordion, but are happy to point out the stupidity of managers continually picking people like Trippier, Aurier, Winks etc - seems when managers pick Sissoko they are "experts whose selections shouldn't be questioned" when they pick the players you don't like that logic gets a bit blurred?
He absolutely does put himself in positions where he can't receive the ball. Whether it's a tactical thing from the team because we don't trust Sissoko with the build-up I don't know. But it does put a huge amount of pressure on his CM partner to show and cover a lot of ground to create passing lanes so we can progress through the middle.
I get why he plays, he's an awkward bastard, big & strong, lots of elbows and arms getting into your face when you get near, can't bounce him off the ball while he can bounce you, relentless physicality for the 90mins and the occasional ability to drive with the ball.But according to some he’s good because Deschamps picks him for France?
Annoyingly displays like that playing for them isn’t going to help someone taking him off our hands.
I get why he plays, he's an awkward bastard, big & strong, lots of elbows and arms getting into your face when you get near, can't bounce him off the ball while he can bounce you, relentless physicality for the 90mins and the occasional ability to drive with the ball.
As Jose is manager, then he's our Fellaini (without the aerial ability or should that be the elbow in the face ability).
It's just on the ball there's little there, under Poch he was useful in relieving any pressure we might have been under by carrying the ball out rather than hoofing it long. I thought he built a good relationship on the pitch with Aurier too.
But we would be so much better if we had a player who was good on the ball.
Our Midfield STILL doesn't control games with the ball (although their is an improvement due to Ndombele and PEH) and without the ball oppo STILL play through us and that's with PEH who has been far better than I was expecting BUT he hasn't fixed our porous midfield).
Think that's a big ask to be fair. It's hard enough for players to fit straight into a side let alone halfway through a season. Would be interesting if Skipp could begin to fill the void or if he's still 2 or 3yrs away??Yep. Buy an upgrade for him in January and I’ll have some faith we might do something special this season. Replacing him as a starter is quite pivotal to our season.