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Our options at centre back make me a little bit uneasy but other than that...

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Harry Brooks is a football coach/analyst for professional/academy players. He has put together an overview of the Spurs' squad for the coming season (written prior to signing Rodon)



JOSE MOURINHO:
Still elite. Infectious charisma, you hang onto every word. Not the defensive manager people label him with and certainly not a dinosaur. Can adapt to his players and will do what requires to win. Hes getting the team to win in a variety of ways which is excellent

HUGO LLORIS:
Since return from injury, back to world class self. Always been an outstanding shot stopper who commands his box, but seems to have cut out the errors that came into his game last few years. Loops passes too much which puts team under pressure when he plays out

JOE HART:
For home grown quota/ professionalism/mentality for the squad, a great choice. However I think Gazzaniga is a better keeper. Very vocal and decisive in goal and good athleticism. It’s individual errors that are the concern and that can also come with being too intense

PAULO GAZZANIGA:
Proven himself to be a more than able deputy. His issue is he doesn’t command the same authority or presence that Lloris and even Hart do and that’s a huge part of being a keeper. Best with his feet out the lot and good shot stopper

MATT DOHERTY:
He won’t dominate the entire flank, but he will contribute in defensive and attacking third in phases of play. Superb at passing and moving with combination play and great awareness to attack the box with off ball runs. Doesn’t excel at a particular cross

SERGE AURIER:
Three right backs in the league are capable of dominating their entire flank and Aurier is one. Has mastered the whip from deep cross when he has time to set his body. When he plays safe defensively and doesn’t swing aimless crosses, he’s a top RB

TOBY ALDERWEIRELD:
Still world class at timing tackles and reading game but appears to have lost yard of pace. Doesn’t carry the ball and lacks suppleness to move body and shift the ball either side so needs to play RCB to make use of his long driven passes

DAVINSON SANCHEZ:
On his day he’s completely dominant. Outstanding last ditch and recovery defender. Pinched in shoulders/lack of core/power in legs, means he can get rolled when he tries to use his body against players. Uncomfortable clearing crosses when LCB

APHET TANGANGA:
Imposing in chaos. Best CB in squad at blocks. Makes himself big and imposing but remains calm and vastly narrows down angle/space available to attacker. Superb defending 1 v 1, excellent leap. Needs more guile and class on ball, but as a defender, commanding

ERIC DIER:
Only CB in squad who can play out as an LCB. Happy to shift the ball and carry it towards left, and even pass with left. Powerful straight line runner. Reads game well and closes down/shepherds players into areas expertly. Momentary lapses in decisions at times

BEN DAVIES:
Perfected the wrapped pass infield. Also gets excellent shape on deep crosses. Very clean technically, best passing FB buy has to become more imposing and assertive as he has the technique, understanding and fitness to effect games. Passing style suits LCB in a back 3

SERGIO REGUILLON:
Greyhound. Charges around at 100mph and 9/10 under control. That 1/10 it’s because he’s literally too aggressive and needs to slow down. Can drive the ball infield/outside, can dribble, can produce variety of crosses/passes, aggressive defender, great fitness

PIERRE-EMILE HØJBJERG:
Ideal DM. Glue to connect a supremely talented midfield collection that had no balance but needed an assertive, controlled, positionally disciplined leader. That’s him. Reads game, covers space, can also press and takes care over passes

HARRY WINKS:
Best in the squad at passing and receiving at angles which helps retain possession and dictate tempo/flow. But too aggressive when pressing, and small legs/lack of physicality makes it easy to bypass him. Clean technician, can also drive with the ball. Best in a 3

MOUSSA SISSOKO:
World class at transitions. Incredible athleticism and ability to drive with the ball. Dominating when tracking his man on defensive transitions to retrieve the ball. Lacks ball manipulation an technique on final pass but so important to the squad. Great mentality

GEDSON:
Very underrated. People dont understand him as he doesnt fill a specific role. A good footballer. Creative dribbler and passer. Can play behind and ahead of the ball, versatile. Lacks final pass/shot. Can progress the ball in a variety of creative ways. Good technically

TANGUY NDOMBELE:
Most creative midfielder in world football in terms of variety and playing off the cuff. So many ways to bypass pressure, and finds amazing angles on forward passes. Unique. Fair play to him to get his body/mind up to Prem League intensity after those doubts

GIOVANI LO CELSO:
Tenacious, technical and intelligent. Not Eriksen replacement as can only play one tempo and in sharp, straight lines. Excellent at threading passes. Plays on the edge. Will have far more goal contributions this season. Contributes in all phases of play

DELE ALLI:
Capable of things no one else in squad is. Too loos on the ball to be heavily involved in build up, but his creativity, risk taking and flair can completely open sides up at the end of build up. His off the ball movement is elite. Struggles with long passes/drives etc

ERIK LAMELA:
Important squad member. Extremely tenacious, which is great when pressing high, annoying when giving away dangerous free kicks. Thrives in chaos and in tight areas with skill, footwork, ability to thread passes but cant gallop or get away completely from opponents

STEVEN BERGWIJN:
Very good at retaining the ball in final third, but can also shift through the gears individually and explode directly to attack. Lovely combination play, technical and good ball striker. Powerful, can attack both sides on both wings and centrally. Smart player

HEUNG-MIN SON:
Fast, direct, superb runner on and off the ball and a great ball striker. Has lots of variety to his finishing off both feet and can attack down both wings. Can lack composure at times as plays so intensely but world class who you can rely on for goal contributions

LUCAS MOURA:
Always 100% engaged intensely physically and mentally. Powerful and direct and best when he doesn’t have a decision to make. Has mastered the whipped shot across goal finish. Superb in air and his positivity alongside power and ball striking ability is a huge plus

GARETH BALE:
Still a top 5 ball striker in world football. Can score/assist goals in many ways from anywhere in the final third and deeper. Has remodelled his game, so now picks and chooses when to make driving runs on and off the ball. Quality, experience, mindset brings so much

HARRY KANE:
Best striker in the world. His form right now and since lockdown is incredible. Decision making, timing of decisions, ball striking, vision, variety of goals, physicality, touch, awareness, can drop to link/create and of course get on the end too and more. Incredible

CARLOS VINICIUS:
Limited viewing but appears to have good movement in the box, an ability to get shots away and can link play as well as his obviously physicality and strength. Not sure about his co-ordination and balance so can sometimes look ugly, but if its effective who cares
 
So we finish the window looking like as follows:

Lloris, Hart, Gazzaniga
Doherty, Aurier
Alderweireld, Dier, Sanchez, Rodon, Tanganga
Regulion, Davies, Cirkin
Hojbjerg, Winks, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Sissoko, Gedson
Son, Bale, Lucas, Bergwijn, Dele, Lamela, Clarke
Kane, Vinicius

Skipp, Parrott & Sessegnon all to return as well. Got to be one of the strongest squads I’ve ever seen turning out for us. Throw in the most successful manager to ever be in charge of us and you can’t help but look up and not down. All done during a pandemic and at roughly 1/3rd of what Chelsea lumped around.
 


To only have one player in the current first team squad just 2 years later really shows how poor our recruitment has been.

Not to mention summer 2019 to bring in Ndombele, Lo Celso, Sessegnon and Clarke ...... with one player still left in current first team squad

People wonder why Hitchen lost his job. He should never work in any recruitment position ever again.

What a fucking disaster our recruitment was pre Paratici. Fixing the mess he inherited is much harder than people think.
 
Europa League Squad as published by UEFA (updated to include Rodon acquisition)

Lloris (Hart, Whiteman & Austin)
Doherty (Aurier) - Sanchez (Tanganga, ) - Alderweireld (Dier) - Reguilon (Davies)
Hojbjerg (Sissoko) - Lo Celso (Winks)
Bale (Moura) - Dele (Ndombele) - Son (Bergwijn, Lamela, Clarke)
Kane (Vinicius )​

Doherty was loaned by Wolves to Hibernian (affiliated to Football Association of Scotland) which means that he could not get HG status and remained 'overseas trained'. Confirmed by sudoku 30/12 who confirmed by emailing Spurs

Those 26 players, categorised by UEFA would be :
Club Trained - 4 ( Kane, Bale, Winks, Whiteman, )
Other Assoc Trained 3 (Hart, Dele, Clarke)
Overseas Trained 17 (Lloris, Aurier, Doherty, Sanchez, Alderweireld, Dier, Reguilon, Davies, Hojbjerg, Sissoko, Lo Celso, Lucas, Ndombele, Son, Bergwijn, Vinicius, Lamela)
Sub-Total 24 Players
List B (U 21's)
2 (Tanganga, Austin)
Total Players 26

Other notable u21 players who could be included are Cirkin and White.

Premier League Squad (and domestic cups)
As EL squad above but also adding :
Gazzaniga - as Davies recategorized as HG player in PL squad, it creates a space for additional overseas player)
Gedson - Classified as u21 for PL
Rodon - Clarke categorised as u21 for PL so opening up an HG space for Rodon

For PL (with different rules to categorise players) :
Overseas Trained

- 17 players above less Davies less Doherty plus Gazzaniga = 16
Home Grown

- As Club and Other Assn Trained - 7 above plus Davies, Rodon & Doherty less Clarke = 9
Sub - Total 25 Players
Under 21's

- As above plus Clarke



Other Current First Team Squad Players

Skipp - loan for season to Norwich
Parrott - loan for season to Millwall
Sessegnon - loan for season to Hoffenheim
Foyth - loan to Villareal for season
Carter-Vickers - loan to Bournemouth for season

Rose (Club Trained) - Not included in squad

PL squad will probably be announced at end of Domestic Transfer Window (October 26)
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Original Post (17/9/2020

The squad has been strengthened significantly this Transfer Window with 4 new 'first team' players .

With the number of games we might have this season our 'first team' might only start in 40% of the games we play (even if all fit) whilst in the other 60% of games the side might have anywhere from none of the first team (in some domestic cup matches) to many of the first team with the other places in the team taken up by tyhe 'non first team' players or youngsters - a real mix and match situation.

So here's our possible first XI with alternative players in brackets - assuming we still sign a new striker, and Rose has left :

Lloris (Hart)
Doherty (Aurier) - Sanchez (Tanganga) - Alderweireld (Dier) - Reguilon (Davies)
Hojbjerg (Sissoko) - Lo Celso (Winks)
Bale (Moura) - Dele (Ndombele) - Son (Bergwijn)
Kane (New Striker)​

Those 22 players, categorised by UEFA would be :
Club Trained - 3 ( Kane, Bale, Winks)
Other Assoc Trained 3 (Hart, Doherty, Dele)
Overseas Trained 15 (Lloris, Aurier, Sanchez, Alderweireld, Dier, Reguilon, Davies, Hojbjerg, Sissoko, Lo Celso, Lucas, Ndombele, Son, Bergwijn, New Striker)
Under 21 1 (Tanganga)
Total Players 22

Which allows us enough room in the squad to include a 3rd GK (Gazanigga - overseas trained) and Lamela (Overseas trained) and Sessegnon (Other Association trained).

Total Number of players in above squad = 25 (including u21 Tanganga, but excluding other u21's such as Cirkin, White and Bowden who might feature in early League Cup games for example.

Which leaves no places for - Foyth, Gedson, Clarke, all of whom might be loaned out, or Foyth sold and Gedson loan cancelled.

Might still need another player or two to leave if more than the alternative striker joins.
 
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Why? Kane, Son, Bale backed up by Lucas, Bergwijn, Dele, (I think Dele goes out on loan) Lamela .... how will any new striker ever get a game? Not saying we won't sign some bench warming player but I don't think we will need them, would rather see fringe squad players get game time in the EL and LC even playing out of position than play a bit-part bench striker.
Because all of them already played as 9 and it's definitely not their best position. What's the point of having good players everywhere and decent depth, when you are one injury apart from playing suboptimal tactics again?
 
Fuck me!!

Look what Jose Dino Mourinho has done to you!!!! When Jose arrived, the narrative was that he would get this side winning. Now it's "what's he meant to be able to achieve with such bad players?" The fact is, people's opinions of this squad have worsened drastically under this manager.

When we bored our way to the top of the table, the talk was fucking hell look at our bench! Your opinion of the players has worsened as a result of the manager.

Transfer window rating https://thefightingcock.co.uk/forum/threads/summer-2020-transfer-window-rating.37580/ 95% gave a rating above 8 out of 10!!!! Your opinion of the players has worsened as a result of the manager.

The fanbases opinions of their squads at Man U & Chelsea also worsened drastically under this manager.

He chucks his players under the bus constantly, never his fault, never taking responsibility. His football is so bad yet it's always his player's fault.
He said when he joined that we had a better squad than he had at Utd. He's added to that squad with Bale, PEH, Reguilon, Bergwijn etc and yet the team has probably got worse.
It's his coaching and man-management that is the problem.
 
Interesting that every new signing under Jose has been over 6ft. Joe Rodon is 6ft 4inch which would make him the tallest CB in the squad. Hopefully that will give the team more confidence during set pieces, which has been one of our weakest spot for years.
 
It does seem like Mourinho is very keen on having taller players. I remember from the documentary that he had all players' heights listed next to their names on his whiteboard so he is certainly monitoring the height on the pitch when he selects his 11s.

As you say he very much favours taller players I think - we all remember his fondness of Fellaini up top for United for example!

True, but Fellaini's height was deceiving because he had a mop of hair (toilet brush) that was the size of another head.
 
So we finish the window looking like as follows:

Lloris, Hart, Gazzaniga
Doherty, Aurier
Alderweireld, Dier, Sanchez, Rodon, Tanganga
Regulion, Davies, Cirkin
Hojbjerg, Winks, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Sissoko, Gedson
Son, Bale, Lucas, Bergwijn, Dele, Lamela, Clarke
Kane, Vinicius

Skipp, Parrott & Sessegnon all to return as well. Got to be one of the strongest squads I’ve ever seen turning out for us. Throw in the most successful manager to ever be in charge of us and you can’t help but look up and not down. All done during a pandemic and at roughly 1/3rd of what Chelsea lumped around.
Impressive to say the least and a clear indicator to everybody else of our intentions and ambitions. Such a positive and happy atmosphere throughout at the moment. Wonderful time to be a Spurs supporter.
 
I know football is an international game but last night Dier was the only English player in the team, Davies the other Brit. I’m no blighty is best, white cliffs of Dover cunt but it strikes me the squad is missing that influence. In the Poch heyday we had rose, Walker, Dier, Kane, Dele. Liverpool, Leicester Chelsea, Utd seem to have a solid group of British players. We’re not bringing youth through either which would help.
Do you think the teams identity and success is affected by the lack of British players?
 
Fuck me!!

Look what Jose Dino Mourinho has done to you!!!! When Jose arrived, the narrative was that he would get this side winning. Now it's "what's he meant to be able to achieve with such bad players?" The fact is, people's opinions of this squad have worsened drastically under this manager.

When we bored our way to the top of the table, the talk was fucking hell look at our bench! Your opinion of the players has worsened as a result of the manager.

Transfer window rating https://thefightingcock.co.uk/forum/threads/summer-2020-transfer-window-rating.37580/ 95% gave a rating above 8 out of 10 or above!!!! Your opinion of the players has worsened as a result of the manager.

The fanbases opinions of their squads at Man U & Chelsea also worsened drastically under this manager.

He chucks his players under the bus constantly, never his fault, never taking responsibility. His football is so bad yet it's always his player's fault.
 
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To only have one player in the current first team squad just 2 years later really shows how poor our recruitment has been.

Not to mention summer 2019 to bring in Ndombele, Lo Celso, Sessegnon and Clarke ...... with one player still left in current first team squad
 
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