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Player Rodrigo Bentancur

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Richard Arlison said:
I wasn't offering an excuse.

Whenever you say something publicly you have a responsibility for it. The world he lives and works in is different culturally from where he's from and in that world it was racist.

He apologized and he had to.

That apology doesn't mean that he in himself meant it in a racially offensive way.
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No mate it's racist where ever the fuck he is.🫣That well it's okay back home but not at the office is a shocker. It's disrespectful to many people in Latin America who know better too. He made a mistake he has apologiesd people need to stop trying to mitigate because to his credit he himself hasn't appeared to.
 
happy pants said:
It was fucking stupid and hopefully he apologised to Sonny personally and not just via social media. It’s relatively harmless though and at its worse it means it might leave Sonny disappointed. As long as Lolo understands it’s not cool to say that shit behind sonny’s back and makes it up to his friend then everyone moves on.
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Casual racism is not harmless.

He may not be racist per se nor intended to cause offence - nor may he have actually offended Sonny - but casual racism is still being racist.
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
No mate it's racist where ever the fuck he is.🫣That well it's okay back home but not at the office is a shocker. It's disrespectful to many people in Latin America who know better too. He made a mistake he has apologiesd people need to stop trying to mitigate because to his credit he himself hasn't appeared to.
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It was racist

That’s not what I’m saying. I’d say Bentancur knows better.

What I’m saying is that in some Latin American cultures that kind of talk is very normal. Cubans refer to each other by skin colour. Try that in the UK and you’ll be called a racist because it is.
 
Son Spurs said:
Really disappointing to see football tribalism being used as a defence against racism in this thread and by our fans. If it was a Chelsea player that did this you would all be calling for his head and you know it. There’s no such thing as “just a joke” when it comes to racism and there’s so many examples, such as the Groyper culture online in 2016 that shows that proper hatred racism starts out with normalising jokes and stereotypes. Either this club is against racism or not.
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It’s not being normalised, it’s being forgiven if the person apologises and shows contrition. Stereotyping is part of human nature, but so is learning and growing. Demonise it at your peril.
 
Son Spurs said:
Really disappointing to see football tribalism being used as a defence against racism in this thread and by our fans. If it was a Chelsea player that did this you would all be calling for his head and you know it. There’s no such thing as “just a joke” when it comes to racism and there’s so many examples, such as the Groyper culture online in 2016 that shows that proper hatred racism starts out with normalising jokes and stereotypes. Either this club is against racism or not.
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It’s entirely predictable so not disappointing at all. And it’s a lot of the suspects I would have 100% called doing it.

These kind of stereotypes are hugely harmful. To say it to an interviewer while being recorded is worrying.

People being like ‘yeah but all me mates and family are racist too’ or ‘yeah but they’re racist in south America’ is so dumb. We aren’t a South American club. We don’t tolerate players coming up with racial stereotypes. He’s lived here and before this in Italy for years, the man knows a joke about all Asians looking the same isn’t funny or acceptable.
 
Richard Arlison said:
That’s not what I’m saying at all.

You are the reason the Leftwaffe tag sticks mate. Learn nuance and context.

Nobody in this thread ever excused him.
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Yeah they did. You won't say it outright but that's exactly what you're doing. Playing it down and talking absolute shit like trying the "south american culture angle". It'll be fucking pictures with his face on next like he's a victim.

And no, that's because racist people hate being called out for racism, so they come out with bullshit terms that act like they're the ones being oppressed when people tell them that what they're saying is really racist.
 
Richard Arlison said:
It was racist

That’s not what I’m saying. I’d say Bentancur knows better.

What I’m saying is that in some Latin American cultures that kind of talk is very normal. Cubans refer to each other by skin colour. Try that in the UK and you’ll be called a racist because it is.
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Good luck trying to talk any sense with people on here.

I once had to spend thousands changing marketing material as it had the word “Negro” on it on two pages.

Wokeness / political correctness gone mad!!!

The way of the world.
 
Deuterz said:
Yeah they did. You won't say it outright but that's exactly what you're doing. Playing it down and talking absolute shit like trying the "south american culture angle". It'll be fucking pictures with his face on next like he's a victim.

And no, that's because racist people hate being called out for racism, so they come out with bullshit terms that act like they're the ones being oppressed when people tell them that what they're saying is really racist.
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No that’s not what I’m doing
 
I don’t think he is racist according to his behavior so far, did he say some dumb shit that was racist yup. Did he apologize for it yup. Was his intentions when saying the comment was to be racist nope . So it’s all good for me, always watch that persons intentions that is always the tell tale if they mean to be a racist are not.
 
The trouble is that whenever someone says something like this then apologises, I always get the feeling that inside their head they’re thinking “they do all look the same, what‘s the big deal”.

You have to be a bit racist to make a comment like that in the first place. If Son does accept the apology then I hope Bentancur can actually take it seriously and try to educate himself.
 
jonomarch said:
I don’t think he is racist according to his behavior so far, did he say some dumb shit that was racist yup. Did he apologize for it yup. Was his intentions when saying the comment was to be racist nope . So it’s all good for me, always watch that persons intentions that is always the tell tale if they mean to be a racist are not.
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Only pitchforks and moral highgrounding will be acceptable
 
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