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I agree with this, however my point was not that we should go out to beat Woolwich because it’s Woolwich, my point was we need to win a trophy. Not to shut up the media, or to appease fans, but to instill a winners’ mentality into our squad.
You made some fairly valid points on us beating/drawing against tough opposition but let’s face it, if we found ourselves up against them in the semis or even final of the UCL, we’d probably shit ourselves and not play with the verve or confidence that other, more seasoned, teams in Europe would. Why? Because we’ve won fuck all so far; we haven’t been in these situations before and come out victors.
Beat Woolwich or whoever in the quarters, then the semis, and then crush City in the final. Our players would gain so much self-assuredness, perhaps even arrogance, and they can lean on this in other competitions. If one of our key players gets injured and that subsequently fucks us finishing in the top four then so be it, them the breaks as they say. But we’d have to have a lot of bad luck for it to completely scupper our season.
Also, on this point I’d ask: why did we challenge (and I say this objectively, as in both seasons there was a significant points gap between us and the title winners) yet fall away? What are we missing? This forms the very essence of my argument.
I would agree with you on a fair few points about being a tough season for us, and that given the circumstances surrounding the lack of home stadium, the lack of signings, injuries, and us seemingly getting the short end of the stick in terms of fixture congestion, just finishing in the top four would be a remarkable achievement. But for me we need to start winning things and become less... er... Spursy. I fucking hate that term, sorry.
Push on like we did in 2008?
Liked the rest of your post, but cant remember this ever happening (apart from once in 2011)
Completely different context. In 2008 it was amazing to win a trophy, any trophy, despite how shit we were. Now it’s less about the trophy itself, more about how it can elevate our players to the next level.
I was a little over-dramatic on the ‘spanked’ comment, but surely many here might feel we bottled it against Juve last season? That’s why I feel we need to develop our mental fortitude rather than just be happy with where we are now. A little push and we can achieve great things.
No, it doesn't elevate the players to the next level, it didn't with us, Wigan, Leicester City, Portsmouth, Everton, Swansea, Birmingham and Boro. All of these clubs never kicked on after winning a cup, there is one common denominator here all of them are the only non-top four clubs to win silverware who weren't in the current top 4 when they won a trophy in the past 30yrs or so!!!
Your example of Chelsea pushing on, conveniently forgets that the Chelsea side was the most expensively assembled side in the history of the game, maybe just maybe that had something to do with them elevating themselves.
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Davies did ok on Saturday
But again, it was Burnley who parked the bus and tomorrow it will be Auba, Lacazette and Ozil maybe
Notabadsquad please read this before every carabao cup thread post you make
Right, we know that they are going to be on it on Wednesday as it's there 2nd cup final of the season, there is no excuse this time for not being ready for it from the whistle. Cut out the mistakes for once and play with the same attitude and confidence that we did at the Nou Camp and we will beat this shower.
Lets see the best eleven we can put out please Poch.
------------------Lloris------------------
Trippier---Sanchez---Toby---Rose
------Sissoko---Winks---Dele-------
--------Son-------------Eriksen--------
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Sanchez and Foyth back in training so a toss up really on who Poch thinks is more ready but I'd go with Sanchez. His pace against Aubameyang would be an asset here.
Maybe see Dele and Eriksen switch at times but I'd like to see Eriksen playing the killer ball further up the pitch. Just hope Dele can get more involved than his 2nd half there last time.
Lets see the best eleven we can put out please Poch.
------------------Lloris------------------
Trippier---Sanchez---Toby---Rose
------Sissoko---Winks---Dele-------
--------Son-------------Eriksen--------
------------------Kane-------------------
Sanchez and Foyth back in training so a toss up really on who Poch thinks is more ready but I'd go with Sanchez. His pace against Aubameyang would be an asset here.
Maybe see Dele and Eriksen switch at times but I'd like to see Eriksen playing the killer ball further up the pitch. Just hope Dele can get more involved than his 2nd half there last time.