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Developing young players usually takes about 5 years from age 16, and getting experience by way of loan or getting minutes for Spurs team in the last 2 years is pretty much a must to get the experience to join Spurs first team.

The lack of loans under Poch is still hampering us as we don't have many u23 players with much playing experience gained on loan so the options for players experienced enough to be HG options for the first team next season is pretty low.

You really think that is the case? We are about to end the 2022 season. Poch left us in November 2019.

So 30 months of football since then with not many loans is ALL down to poch?
When you have literally just said the last 2 years of their development is the time to spend on loan. Like skipp for instance?

IMO players picked out for future success never kicked on. Despite going on loan.

I think some other decent players have left over money and playing time.
Mourinho and conte not known for promoting youth. Probably agents in their ears telling them this.

Markandy the most recent. Poch fault he has not been on loan last 12 months???
 
You really think that is the case? We are about to end the 2022 season. Poch left us in November 2019.

So 30 months of football since then with not many loans is ALL down to poch?
When you have literally just said the last 2 years of their development is the time to spend on loan. Like skipp for instance?

IMO players picked out for future success never kicked on. Despite going on loan.

I think some other decent players have left over money and playing time.
Mourinho and conte not known for promoting youth. Probably agents in their ears telling them this.

Markandy the most recent. Poch fault he has not been on loan last 12 months???

A loan strategy depends upon multiple things including building up relations with other clubs who might loan players. That takes years to build up.

KWP was not loaned out nor played for 3 years despite several MoTM performances, and and player moved on. Of course after being played at Southampton he's now a decent player - and if still at Spurs might well be considered our best RWB/LWB.

Of course it doesn't stop there, Noni Madueke (as an example) did not accept a pro contract and left to go to PSV - potentially a star that we would struggle to buy

Poch is not the only issue that the youth set up has but his mismanagement of youth has a tail which we are only is only just about getting through.

You should understand youth development is a multi year process - the more important years being 5 years from age 16. So 30 months is way less, which is why your post is based upon a lack of understanding of youth football

BTW, the views of one of many specialists in youth development and coaching :

 
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Parrott needs to come back in the Summer so Conte can take a look at him.

Agreed, he and Kion Etete.

My personal feeling is that its likely that both could do with a Championship loan next season and then be more ready to stay n Spurs first team squad ...... but very happy to be proved wrong in pre-season ! Same with Harvey White
 
A loan strategy depends upon multiple things including building up relations with other clubs who might loan players. That takes years to build up.

KWP was not loaned out nor played for 3 years despite several MoTM performances, and and player moved on. Of course after being played at Southampton he's now a decent player - and if still at Spurs might well be considered our best RWB/LWB.

Of course it doesn't stop there, Noni Madueke (as an example) did not accept a pro contract and left to go to PSV - potentially a star that we would struggle to buy

Poch is not the only issue that the youth set up has but his mismanagement of youth has a tail which we are only is only just about getting through.

You should understand youth development is a multi year process - the more important years being 5 years from age 16. So 30 months is way less, which is why your post is based upon a lack of understanding of youth football

BTW, the views of one of many specialists in youth development and coaching :



I don’t think you understand it tbh.

Years to build up relationships to make a loan? Really?
 
Why post on something you clearly know nothing about.

Go away and play FIFA/Xbox or whatever somewhere else

Why do you think we have a player on loan at charlton currently?

Maybe check how many clubs we have loaned players out to over the last 5 years and come back to me.

Do you work in football? Are you involved in development at a professional club? Do you regularly speak to people who are?

Very mature answer about FIFA / Xbox by the way. Enlightening.
 
Yes, pretty obvious I'd think.

God knows how many phone calls/approaches/cold calls et al clubs get from agents etc. I'd be tempted not to accept a single one unless it came from a rock solid relationship where there was a decent history of good loans

Nope. Not years.

Same answer I gave to the other fellow.

Go and research the clubs we have loaned players to over the last 5 years and come back to me.
 
A loan strategy depends upon multiple things including building up relations with other clubs who might loan players. That takes years to build up.

KWP was not loaned out nor played for 3 years despite several MoTM performances, and and player moved on. Of course after being played at Southampton he's now a decent player - and if still at Spurs might well be considered our best RWB/LWB.

Of course it doesn't stop there, Noni Madueke (as an example) did not accept a pro contract and left to go to PSV - potentially a star that we would struggle to buy

Poch is not the only issue that the youth set up has but his mismanagement of youth has a tail which we are only is only just about getting through.

You should understand youth development is a multi year process - the more important years being 5 years from age 16. So 30 months is way less, which is why your post is based upon a lack of understanding of youth football

BTW, the views of one of many specialists in youth development and coaching :



I was at work earlier so didn’t have time to check out this harry Brooks character.

That’s your point of reference?? A twitter account.

Although that’s actually quite embarrassing everyone is welcome to their opinion about football. Including yourself.
And Harry.

You agree with this opinion too?

 
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Spurs u18 v Aston Villa u18 @ 12 noon Saturday

Unavailable due to injury call ups : Renaldo Torraj, Rio Kyerematen, Jamie Donley, Will Andiyapan, Thomas Bloxham plus players such as Dane Scarlett and Alfie Devine still eligible to play u18's although rarely do.

So expect a less experienced team on Saturday
 
Spurs u18 v Aston Villa u18 @ 12 noon Saturday

Unavailable due to injury call ups : Renaldo Torraj, Rio Kyerematen, Jamie Donley, Will Andiyapan, Thomas Bloxham plus players such as Dane Scarlett and Alfie Devine still eligible to play u18's although rarely do.

So expect a less experienced team on Saturday

Do you go to these games?
 
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Replies I got from people who work in football varied from
Could be a phone call
How long is a piece of string. Generally needs to be sorted out quickly.
Could be days, couple of months. Depends.

I know Spursidol Spursidol has zero involvement in football. “Armchair expert” in his own words.

Maybe White Van Jan White Van Jan you work in the game? But your reply said not.

And maybe you have both realised how many clubs we have dealt with over a 5 year period now?

Keep up the good work.

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Spursidol Spursidol White Van Jan White Van Jan

Replies I got from people who work in football varied from
Could be a phone call
How long is a piece of string. Generally needs to be sorted out quickly.
Could be days, couple of months. Depends.

I know Spursidol Spursidol has zero involvement in football. “Armchair expert” in his own words.

Maybe White Van Jan White Van Jan you work in the game? But your reply said not.

And maybe you have both realised how many clubs we have dealt with over a 5 year period now?

Keep up the good work.

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What are you trying to achieve?
 
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