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I wouldn't say we forget what got us there but, I was banging on to that effect for ages... We got too big too quickly in as much as we were ahead of schedule in terms of the stadium project vs the club's growth on the pitch. A cash injection to roll the dice on winning the league was never really viable given our financial focus over the duration of the build.



The specifics of a DOF can vary, but their job isn't to "control the money" or be a "pen pusher" (whatever the latter means in real terms).

Lots to read out there on the subject if you're genuinely interested.
Yes I am interested on whether the mechanics of this would work for us I'm not trying to stir anything up, but rather a query that I have regarding this working for us.
 
Yes I am interested on whether the mechanics of this would work for us I'm not trying to stir anything up, but rather a query that I have regarding this working for us.
It has in the past. Historically Levy has adapted to what the manager wants. If the manager wants a DOF, he gets one. And if he doesn't then he doesn't get one.
 
It has in the past. Historically Levy has adapted to what the manager wants. If the manager wants a DOF, he gets one. And if he doesn't then he doesn't get one.
I suppose if levy and Jose want one them they will have to make it work old Harry was never interested in it, but then he was old school and probably had a miss trust of someone else I'm charge of recruiting.
 
Yes I am interested on whether the mechanics of this would work for us I'm not trying to stir anything up, but rather a query that I have regarding this working for us.

Simple terms: Oversees footballing strategy; which trickles down to the team at all age-groups as well as recruitment scouting department etc.

Ideally, lets Levy concentrate upon the things he's good at. Irony here is that, despite the hype, he's proven keen on this model throughout his tenure.
 
Do we really need a DOF levy still controls the money so having another pen pusher won't change our fortunes, unless he is the man to target potential talent for us to snap up for a cheap price and huge sell on fee later.

That control of the money you speak of may very well keep us afloat and out other teams in ruin. Yes he can be a pain but can we really say that as a custodian looking after the well being of the club first and foremost that it doesn’t see,a good thing at present? There’ll be a lot of teams really worrying right now and I think we can give DL a nod as we’d wont be one of them. Nothing in the grand scheme of things at present but our finances are very healthy and we will be on the right side if shit hits the fan big time.
 
I suppose if levy and Jose want one them they will have to make it work old Harry was never interested in it, but then he was old school and probably had a miss trust of someone else I'm charge of recruiting.
Very few big clubs these days can operate successfully without a DOF. The old days of the manager doing everything in regards to the first team are long gone.
 
It has in the past. Historically Levy has adapted to what the manager wants. If the manager wants a DOF, he gets one. And if he doesn't then he doesn't get one.

Ideally we find ourselves with one that hits it off with DL and transcends the manager so that we have the situ where the DOF is key in selecting mangers too.
 
Seems to me you’re just focussing on any negative you can find.
So you think focusing your response on me instead of my points in some ways lessens any merit they might have? Also, I was specifically responding to a point made about unearthed talent lest you forget.

Transfers are only part of a director of football’s job.
Yeah, the most important part of the job and the thing that makes everything else possible. Is anyone complaining about 'behind the scenes' issues or are they complaining about a horribly unbalance and lacking first team? Stadium and academy seem to be running fine but the team is shit. Seems to me the guy is being talked up in regards to his scouting/signing ability and not necessarily his ability to keep things shipshape behind the scenes.

This article sets out what they do pretty well:
Perhaps you need this refresher but I am well acquainted with the job's remit (though it might differ slightly from team to team).
 
So you think focusing your response on me instead of my points in some ways lessens any merit they might have? Also, I was specifically responding to a point made about unearthed talent lest you forget.


Yeah, the most important part of the job and the thing that makes everything else possible. Is anyone complaining about 'behind the scenes' issues or are they complaining about a horribly unbalance and lacking first team? Stadium and academy seem to be running fine but the team is shit. Seems to me the guy is being talked up in regards to his scouting/signing ability and not necessarily his ability to keep things shipshape behind the scenes.


Perhaps you need this refresher but I am well acquainted with the job's remit (though it might differ slightly from team to team).
How do you rate Florian Maurice?
 
How do you rate Florian Maurice?
I wouldn't be able to authoritatively state that my man. He is given a shitload of credit by the players that come through and is credited with rather unique ID methods and that's about what I 'know'. I believe he was let go by JMA a few years back only to bring him back when there was an 'uprising' from within and without. You can't argue with the results.

I believe his position has become impinged upon by this reorganization with Juni coming back and JMA supposedly taking a step back only to become even more involved in shit...while stepping on everyone's toes.

edit: I had an article on him from about 2-3 years ago that i will look up. Suffice it to say I would be more pleased with Maurice than the guy from Lille and that's not a statement on their respective abilities as much as it is on the health of Spurs going forward. I prefer an independent DOF that is wholly responsible to the club and not fighting mixed loyalties.
 
I wouldn't be able to authoritatively state that my man. He is given a shitload of credit by the players that come through and is credited with rather unique ID methods and that's about what I 'know'. I believe he was let go by JMA a few years back only to bring him back when there was an 'uprising' from within and without. You can't argue with the results.

I believe his position has become impinged upon by this reorganization with Juni coming back and JMA supposedly taking a step back only to become even more involved in shit...while stepping on everyone's toes.
He has been linked with us.
 
All well and good mentioning who he has unearthed. What about the ones he signed who didn't make it?

Even Baldini signed the likes of Marcelo, Higuain, Samuel, Eriksen etc.

Commoli was another one who signed some really good players during his career.

I think what a DOF allows more than anything is to let Levy run the club on the business side and allow the DOF to deal with transfers and get the players out manager wants.

Baldini and Commoli got shit done.

If Mourinho wants a DOF in, get one in.
 
All well and good mentioning who he has unearthed. What about the ones he signed who didn't make it?

Even Baldini signed the likes of Marcelo, Higuain, Samuel, Eriksen etc.

Commoli was another one who signed some really good players during his career.

I think what a DOF allows more than anything is to let Levy run the club on the business side and allow the DOF to deal with transfers and get the players out manager wants.

Baldini and Commoli got shit done.

If Mourinho wants a DOF in, get one in.

That is my issue. Levy is a great businessman but when it comes to football that ain’t his strength. Let Levy do the things he does well and get someone to do the things he shouldn’t be doing.
 
He's basically worked his way into the job. Started as a manager, not so successfully it appears, ended up as head scout at RMadrid, then became DOF at Monaco when they were taking off under Ribolovlev, helped build the side that won Ligue1, then the wheels came off at Monaco when FFP and Ribolovlev's divorce kicked in, and Gerard Lopez (owner of Lille and very shrewd businessman, IT and Sports - Football and F1- investor who also manage players and image rights) lured him over to Lille with a promise of cut of profits from sales I think.

I think a lot of these DOF/Sporting Director/Recruitment specialists often work better at medium/smaller clubs in France, Germany, Spain because at bigger clubs the recruitment process is slightly different, at big clubs it's less about unearthing cheap young gems that need polishing, or seeing the possibility of re-tooling a failed talent to make them viable (and valuable) again - it's more geared toward buying for the "now" and spending bigger sums and not adding inherent value.

I know that the bigger clubs do buy hot young prospects, but invariably it's to farm them or it's more speculative. At Lille/RBL/Rennes/Lyon/BMG/Seville etc etc level it's about unearthing raw materials and then adding inherent footballing and financial value.

This is where the Monchi's, Rangnick's, Mislintat's, Campos's etc etc (many in France and Germany particularly) tend to excel I think.


We are not a big club though, we don't spend like the biggest clubs do. So we are run on the same strategy as medium sized clubs and that's why we need a director of football to oversee the constant recruitment of the best young talents.
 
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