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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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Not really. If Chelsea end up with Sterling, Koulibaly, Cucurella, De Jong(?), another good cb and Chukwaemeka(for the future) that's a better window than most in the PL.

Woolwich have had a decent window. Jesus and Zinchenko both strengthen that first XI, Saliba coming back is great for them.

United I'd agree with you, but Ars and Che have brought in multiple players who'll improve the XI and will be high level PL players.. don't think any West Ham signing provides that guarantee.

If they end up with everyone on that list, it would be the best window of any team in the PL wouldn't it.. surely?
 
If they end up with everyone on that list, it would be the best window of any team in the PL wouldn't it.. surely?
Well, yeah, though not yet clear if they get De Jong obviously. Think there's kind of a collective reckoning that Chelsea are in for a dip year. Personally think if they were to sign another good cb, midfielder and Werner replacement they'd have as much chance of pushing the top two as we do.
 
Well, yeah, though not yet clear if they get De Jong obviously. Think there's kind of a collective reckoning that Chelsea are in for a dip year. Personally think if they were to sign another good cb, midfielder and Werner replacement they'd have as much chance of pushing the top two as we do.

That's a big one for me. They're linked to some great players and Sterling is a top acquisition (I haven't seen much of Koulibaly recently so reserving judgement) but their attacking options are still underwhelming, unless Havertz goes up a notch or two.
 
Well, yeah, though not yet clear if they get De Jong obviously. Think there's kind of a collective reckoning that Chelsea are in for a dip year. Personally think if they were to sign another good cb, midfielder and Werner replacement they'd have as much chance of pushing the top two as we do.

Then again that amounts to 6/7 new starters....... To reach a similar level to us???

That's more damning than the tone of your post suggests.
 
Then again that amounts to 6/7 new starters....... To reach a similar level to us???

That's more damning than the tone of your post suggests.
Not really. The season could leave us anywhere from 2nd in the table to 6th. Chelsea could yet finish ahead of us comfortably if they get things right and we don't. They'll probably end the window with more quality throughout their squad than we do, but without two world class attacking players which is our trump card.
 
Not really. The season could leave us anywhere from 2nd in the table to 6th. Chelsea could yet finish ahead of us comfortably if they get things right and we don't. They'll probably end the window with more quality throughout their squad than we do, but without two world class attacking players which is our trump card.

Let's say they don't sign 3/4 more starters after Cucurella (who's arguably depth anyway.... that's not to say he's guaranteed to sign either***).... Then what?

I'm not saying I believe them to be currently way behind us in quality stakes; but there's very much 2 sides to the 'coin' that is your take.

(***We've already seen Chavs blow deals for De Light, Raphina, Kounde & Ake.)
 
No player will be "given a fair chance". Every player has to earn one.

That's what they do on the training field every day. He could not. so he is moved on.

Laughable to state that Conte would even have time to plot against someone or intentionally screwing one over.

Truth is - he is just not good enough.

Where did I say that Conte was “plotting against someone or intentionally screwing one over”

Stop twisting posts and basically lying
 
Let's say they don't sign 3/4 more starters after Cucurella (who's arguably depth anyway.... that's not to say he's guaranteed to sign either***).... Then what?

I'm not saying I believe them to be currently way behind us in quality stakes; but there's very much 2 sides to the 'coin' that is your take.

(***We've already seen Chavs blow deals for De Light, Raphina, Kounde & Ake.)

They'll be fine. They will still be the side who finished 3rd*, got to both domestic cup finals and lost on penalties, and were inches way from knocking out Real Madrid in the CL. They have quality running throughout the team, great depth & an elite manager.

**Minus Rudiger, Christensen & Lukaku and + Sterling, Koulibaly, Gallagher back & Cucurella. So stronger, actually .. already.

(I'll leave it there because we're 1-2 posts away from someone telling us to shut up because it isn't the Chelsea thread)
 
Not really. The season could leave us anywhere from 2nd in the table to 6th. Chelsea could yet finish ahead of us comfortably if they get things right and we don't. They'll probably end the window with more quality throughout their squad than we do, but without two world class attacking players which is our trump card.

I'm convinced that it's gonna unravel at Chelsea this season, there's so many distractions there, it's really not a stable environment at all despite who they may sign or who they've been linked to.
 
I think what we've done hits the mark in terms of being acceptable. More than that, in fact. But when people were riding the wave of getting CL, having Conte & the war chest news, the expectations were there that we had a chance to go out and get 4 new starters and build an XI which can challenge for the league

In the context of that I think we've had a pragmatic window but not the kind where you're absolutely buzzing to see players get on the pitch, like I think would have been the case if say a Bastoni had ended up being signed. But yes the Spence/Lenglet point is dead on, as I've said before we can't say for sure how 'good' the window was or not till we see all these players in action.
The problem this window is that there aren't any available quality players for all the positions we wanted to strengthen. We have the money, we have the pull, but if no one's available what can you do.

For me the fact that Conte is happy with the window tells me all I need to know. It seems we did the best we could under the circumstances and Conte probably realizes that. Else he would be quite pissed. And, in any case, this was never a one-window project. It'll take a couple more to get us to challenge.

So I think we need to sit back and enjoy what is being built. The season starts in a few days and I'm expecting we'll be quite competitive, if the end of last season is anything to go by.
 

Yeh, you might not have noticed but I couldn't give two fucks about them being "fine". LOL

They will still be the side who finished 3rd*, got to both domestic cup finals and lost on penalties, and were inches way from knocking out Real Madrid in the CL. They have quality running throughout the team, great depth & an elite manager.

**Minus Rudiger, Christensen & Lukaku and + Sterling, Koulibaly, Gallagher back & Cucurella. So stronger, actually .. already.

So NOT the same side then.

Reminder.... Cucurella is not a Chelsea player yet.... Much like De Ligt & co. weren't when you (and others granted!) last gave them an eagerly favourable, yet premature assessment.

Once again it feels like it's one set of rules for Spurs; another set of more favourable rules for our rivals.

"If Chavs sign another 4 starters........."????

Come on....Get serious! .........Imagine the ridicule I'd face, if I rolled out that line regarding Spurs?

Facts:

They've bought 2 starters..... And still only have 2 senior CBs for a team that plays 3.
We've bought 2 starters....
 
Yeh, you might not have noticed but I couldn't give two fucks about them. LOL



So NOT the same side then.

Reminder.... Cucurella is not a Chelsea player yet.... Much like De Ligt & co. weren't when you (and others granted!) last gave them an eagerly favourable, yet premature assessment.

Once again it feels like it's one set of rules for Spurs; another set of more favourable rules for our rivals.

"If Chavs sign another 4 starters........."????

Come on....Get serious! .........Imagine the ridicule I'd face, if I rolled out that line regarding Spurs?

Facts:

They've bought 2 starters..... And still only have 2 senior CBs for a team that plays 3.
We've bought 2 starters....

They had a better team than us to start with. They needed less starters.

Chelsea will sign more players. You know, I know it, the world knows it. Some deals may have fallen through but the alternatives are all top footballers. This idea they're going anywhere anytime soon is delusional folly.

Edit: And I included Cucurella because it was what you originally posed in your 'what if they don't sign anyone else apart from him' post .. not because I was saying he was nailed on.
 
Sure, but it's still a bit disappointing that we're two injuries away from last season's starting 11. The early buzz of Bissouma and Perisic didn't quite lead to other transfers of that calibre in the rest of the window.

It's a good window but not especially out of the ordinary for a top club.
Who exactly that was available and we wanted did we miss out on?
 
Seems like Richarlison is rapidly becoming the forgotten man of our window......

The fixation with starters that's come to a head over the last 24 hours >>> The sudden ejection of the neu notion that it's now a squad game thanks to 5 subs etc. (I got jumped on for talking about a starting XI before we'd signed him.... Adjustable goalposts in full effect once more!)......

Conveniently for those those that want to view our window unfavourably, our new £60m attacker falls between the cracks.

Sure, but it's still a bit disappointing that we're two injuries away from last season's starting 11. The early buzz of Bissouma and Perisic didn't quite lead to other transfers of that calibre in the rest of the window.

It's a good window but not especially out of the ordinary for a top club.

(See above.)

You quickly transitioned this Bissouma injury into a complaint about depth yesterday.

Care to comment?
 
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They had a better team than us to start with. They needed less starters.

Why are you making this a dick-measuring contest between our two squads.

It has no direct bearing over the point I've made...... (Just like our last tet-a-tet over Chelsea's squad.)

My comments about Chelsea stand alone.

Chelsea will sign more players. You know, I know it`, the world knows it. Some deals may have fallen through but the alternatives are all top footballers.

Subject to who and when; yeh they probably will.

Again; not the point I've been making though.

(Please refresh your memory of my first couple of posts cos you're taking this way off-piste.)

This idea they're going anywhere anytime soon is delusional folly.

Please don't strawman me.

Edit: And I included Cucurella because it was what you originally posed in your 'what if they don't sign anyone else apart from him' post .. not because I was saying he was nailed on.

Sorry mate:

I only included Cucurella as you & Doc had both already mentioned him. A big part of my point here is NOT rating them on the basis of players they don't even have under contract (something you have previous for re: De Light, Raphinia etc.)...... It's bogus to try and pin his inclusion in the discussion on me.
 
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Seems like Richarlison is rapidly becoming the forgotten man of our window......

The fixation with starters that's come to a head over the last 24 hours >>> The sudden ejection of the neu notion that it's now a squad game thanks to 5 subs etc. (I got jumped on for talking about a starting XI before we'd signed him.... Adjustable goalposts in full effect once more!)......

Conveniently for those those that want to view our window, unfavourably our new £60m attacker falls between the cracks.
Time could put that to bed.. he's the kind of player who could win us a few games vs top teams this season, come up with a set-piece header in an FA cup semi final. Don't think many have an issue with him as a player, but our front three from last season is the strongest aspect of our team.

People are just getting a bit nervous in that they feel Perisic is the only clear first XI improvement we've made(to some, at this point). In 5 weeks time we could be looking at a situation where Lenglet, Bissouma, Spence and Perisic all fit into that category. Much of it is just noise from people with consistently bad opinions about football, but it's not rooted in nothing. Other teams will strengthen as well, and we just have to hope that our club gets it more right than the others do.
 
They'll be fine. They will still be the side who finished 3rd*, got to both domestic cup finals and lost on penalties, and were inches way from knocking out Real Madrid in the CL. They have quality running throughout the team, great depth & an elite manager.

**Minus Rudiger, Christensen & Lukaku and + Sterling, Koulibaly, Gallagher back & Cucurella. So stronger, actually .. already.

(I'll leave it there because we're 1-2 posts away from someone telling us to shut up because it isn't the Chelsea thread)

Yeah shut up.

1. This isn't the chelsea thread
2. This isn't a chelsea forum
3. Praising our rivals like that is disgusting.
4. Pass me a fucking bucket
 
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