It’s amazing how this guy — one of the worst monarchs in our history — has managed to be so well regarded and, well, lionized. The man obviously had a brilliant PR team working for him.Yeah, we glorify Richard the Lionheart
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It’s amazing how this guy — one of the worst monarchs in our history — has managed to be so well regarded and, well, lionized. The man obviously had a brilliant PR team working for him.Yeah, we glorify Richard the Lionheart
His mum was a bit of alright though.Yeah, we glorify Richard the Lionheart.
Despite the fact he spent very little time , 6 months only,in England (he much preferred France) didn't speak much English, bled the country dry in taxes to fund his wars,failed in the crusade and got captured on his way home costing the country a kings ransom.......literally.
Oh and was buried in France.
Whatever one thinks of this world cup, it beggars belief that someone thinks it is acceptable to go to an Arab country dressed as a crusader. I just can't understand what they are thinking.
That whole project is so absurd. Even if they manage to get something built, I don't see how it is sustainable. You can't beat entropy, the upkeep will be ridiculous.The Saudis are WAY ahead of you
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Most people don't seem to care there. I was more referring to the type of person that dons the outfit in the first place.If someone dressed as Moor came to Spanish GP no one would give a fuck.
Pathetically touchy. And the crusades went nowhere near Qatar which didn't even exist then ffs.
People are so trained to be woke its subconscious now.
It's nice to see that the Mexicans are keeping the Qatari police in check.
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The issue isn't with individual people, players or not, Muslims or not.
The issue is the laws in Qatar.
This whole 'respect the hosts, and their beliefs' is BOLLOCKS when it's Middle Ages values like Qatar's...From a Western society POV The laws are wrong but it's their laws and beliefs and we just have to accept that.
You may want to argue that they shouldn't have bid for the tournament but FIFA shouldn't have give it to them but we are where we are with this.
The people of Qatar have been brought up to believe a certain ideology, that's their belief and their culture and if you're going over there whilst in their country you just have to respect it, just like anywhere you go to.
I guess oil is basically free there. Yes it's utterly mad.That whole project is so absurd. Even if they manage to get something built, I don't see how it is sustainable. You can't beat entropy, the upkeep will be ridiculous.
Most people don't seem to care there. I was more referring to the type of person that dons the outfit in the first place.
And yet the South African regine taught their children apartheid for generations....From a Western society POV The laws are wrong but it's their laws and beliefs and we just have to accept that.
You may want to argue that they shouldn't have bid for the tournament but FIFA shouldn't have give it to them but we are where we are with this.
The people of Qatar have been brought up to believe a certain ideology, that's their belief and their culture and if you're going over there whilst in their country you just have to respect it, just like anywhere you go to.
This^^^I think the issue is they aren't minding their own business. They've bribed their way into holding the best tournament on earth. If they don't want to welcome the world, they shouldn't have invited them with brown envelopes.
Reminded me of When i was in Afghan, the locals who used to work on Camp as Translators or Just general pot washers used to have what got nick named as "man love Thursday!the funny thing is, most of these backwards cunts probably have sons who are fucking the rainbow out of the male migrant worker you've 'employed' to build your fucking blood stadia...
Unless they already died doing it, in which case your son is a GAY NECROPHILLIAC.... 'cos like it or not, after 18 years of your made up fairy god oppression, he's still gonna fuck him... just to spite you!
And yet the South African regine taught their children apartheid for generations....
So tell me this; if you'd have traveled to South Africa anytime pre 1985, would you have been happy to hang a black, push him off a bus, or tell him he was a second class citizen, JUST cos that's what the country's rules were...?
Just cos it's law, doesn't make it right....
I'm gonna build me a time machine, travel back to 1940's Germany, and gas me some Jews.... ITS THE LAW OF THE LAND! who am I to disagree??
Qatar are a backwards nation, with a hard-on for Western capitalism... that's gotta mess with their homophobic, racist, misogynistic narrow minds!
But if that's what they believe in, who are WE to disagree!!
This^^^
These aren't reasonable examples, in my view. If we could take our modern-day values back in time, we could find a whole load of wrongs to right... everywhere. A white person living in or visiting South Africa circa 1985 would, unfortunately, have a different perspective on apartheid to the one we have today. Same goes for attitudes towards Jewish people in and around 1940.So tell me this; if you'd have traveled to South Africa anytime pre 1985, would you have been happy to hang a black, push him off a bus, or tell him he was a second class citizen, JUST cos that's what the country's rules were...?
I'm gonna build me a time machine, travel back to 1940's Germany, and gas me some Jews.... ITS THE LAW OF THE LAND! who am I to disagree??
Not quite.A white person living in or visiting South Africa circa 1985 would, unfortunately, have a different perspective on apartheid to the one we have today.
Very interesting - thank you!Richard the Lionheart really did get a good press from British history, whilst his truth is somewhat more chequered.
As mentioned above, he spent little time in England whilst King (around 6 months from 10 years), had issues with the Jewish London population (wasn't the only one, of course) - it's reported that on the day of his Coronation, he had 'thousands' of Jews killed in London - he really had little time for England was one of his quotes was that if he could sell London (to further fund his crusades), he would have.
All the above is simplified to a degree but here we often make the unfair comparison against his brother, King John/John of Lackland (as he was known - the last child in the family didn't get land inheritance and were generally expected to into the church). John was weak and far from perfect but populist history always makes Richard the hero and John the Villain, even in Disney cartoon form. The truth, as is often, somewhere away from the extremes.
I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that, by 1940, even the most naive person in the world realized that gassing children to death was a no-no.These aren't reasonable examples, in my view. If we could take our modern-day values back in time, we could find a whole load of wrongs to right... everywhere. A white person living in or visiting South Africa circa 1985 would, unfortunately, have a different perspective on apartheid to the one we have today. Same goes for attitudes towards Jewish people in and around 1940.
I think they'd been banned before 1970 but, in any event, I think my broader point still stands.Not quite.
This happened in 1985.
This day 30 years ago the Dunnes Stores anti-apartheid strike began
The strike lasted almost three years and Nelson Mandela later told the small group of workers that their stand had helped him to keep going during his time in prison.www.thejournal.ie
They were also banned from the Olympics in 1970
Reminded me of When i was in Afghan, the locals who used to work on Camp as Translators or Just general pot washers used to have what got nick named as "man love Thursday!
It used to involve all the Men dancing around wearing hardly any clothes in there tents with the Younger men, who used to wear makeup for the evening! Now i'm not one to make assumptions, but quite often if you had a conversation with any of the locals they would often tell you how the women were for making babies and the Young men were for making love with! All i can say is its a good job none of them were gay or they might have got stoned to death, and not in a good Snoop dog way!
From a Western society POV The laws are wrong but it's their laws and beliefs and we just have to accept that.
You may want to argue that they shouldn't have bid for the tournament but FIFA shouldn't have give it to them but we are where we are with this.
The people of Qatar have been brought up to believe a certain ideology, that's their belief and their culture and if you're going over there whilst in their country you just have to respect it, just like anywhere you go to.
I don't think it does.I think they'd been banned before 1970 but, in any event, I think my broader point still stands.