The sliding doors of Pochettinos reign

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The Sliding Doors of Pochettino's reign - World of Hotspur

A detailed look at the sliding doors of Mauricio Pochettino's reign at Tottenham Hotspur, and a look into what might have been.

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Fantastic piece about our failures under this ownership and a tale of what could have been, it's a great read but one that leaves a very bitter taste in the mouth.

I think it offers a lot of perspective on what the real issue is at this club.

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrow]

This is a sober wll constructed reminder of where why and when we went from title contenders, to a firmly mid table side.

 

[Ossie Wembley]

If you cannot win a single trophy with a prime Kane, Eriksen, Dembele, Son, Vertonghen, Alderwield, Walker, Lloris and Ali then it doesnt matter who you bring in because it is simply not going to alter things.

When inferior United and Woolwich sides where able to win multiple trophies during that time then it tells you where the real issue was and it wasn’t with the board.

Liverpool have just won the CL and league in the space of 12 months. They have done that with the same model as ours, with a limited squad and haven’t spent large in 2 transfer windows. The difference is that they had Klopp and we had Pochettinho.

Does anyone really believe that had Klopp been in charge of us in 2016 that we would have ended up trophyless? The problem was always Poch

 

[Tomo]

Leciester got lucky, right oh.

Which squad options are better than ours? Origi?Shaquri? Llanna?Minammo? Brewster? Keita? Lovern? Or any of the other dross they have?

Kane and Son are on a par with Salah and Firmino, their advantage is Mane.

They have a very good starting 11 but nothing else.

We had that for 3 seasons and yet won nothing.

What’s the difference? It is fairly obvious to see

Liverpool where below us until they got probably the best goalkeeper and defender in the world not to mention a magnificent DM in Fabinho.

 

[TomHotspur]

If you cannot win a single trophy with a prime Kane, Eriksen, Dembele, Son, Vertonghen, Alderwield, Walker, Lloris and Ali then it doesnt matter who you bring in because it is simply not going to alter things.

When inferior United and Woolwich sides where able to win multiple trophies during that time then it tells you where the real issue was and it wasn’t with the board.

Liverpool have just won the CL and league in the space of 12 months. They have done that with the same model as ours, with a limited squad and haven’t spent large in 2 transfer windows. The difference is that they had Klopp and we had Pochettinho.

Does anyone really believe that had Klopp been in charge of us in 2016 that we would have ended up trophyless? The problem was always Poch

Firstly, “prime Kane, Eriksen, Dembele, Son, Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Walker, Lloris and Alli.” What the fuck did any of those players achieve before Pochettino became their manager? What can you possibly base your assumption that these players were good enough to win honours without reinforcements on? Pure and utter drivel.

You talk about Liverpool having the same model as ours. They do to a certain degree, but they used said model to back their manager. The signed players that he wanted in positions that needed strengthening in the team. But CRUCIALLY, the did so at the right time. They didn’t wait until the team he had became stale and tired before they signed Alison, VVD, Keita, Fabinho etc.

 

[Radical Rei]

Moutinho, Grealish, Dybala... what could have been!

 

[John Thomas]

If you cannot win a single trophy with a prime Kane, Eriksen, Dembele, Son, Vertonghen, Alderwield, Walker, Lloris and Ali then it doesnt matter who you bring in because it is simply not going to alter things.

When inferior United and Woolwich sides where able to win multiple trophies during that time then it tells you where the real issue was and it wasn’t with the board.

Liverpool have just won the CL and league in the space of 12 months. They have done that with the same model as ours, with a limited squad and haven’t spent large in 2 transfer windows. The difference is that they had Klopp and we had Pochettinho.

Does anyone really believe that had Klopp been in charge of us in 2016 that we would have ended up trophyless? The problem was always Poch

What a load of absolute bollocks




We just became the first team ever to fail to register a single shot on target against Bournmouth in their Premier League history.

With the same players Poch took to a Champions League final just 13 months ago!


Lets blame Poch for that, too.

 

[Ossie Wembley]

Yes, because Klopp would not have got the extra players he needed to finish the job. The idea that Poch was the problem is mind blowing.

Klopp didn’t get any extra players last summer or in January and they walked the title. Their squad is completely bare.

I love the notion that our 2016, 2017 and 2018 team wasn’t good enough. Other inferior sides could win multiple trophies, Leciester could win a title but we need more massive money signings apparently.

It’s almost as if people are saying that Pochettino wasn’t quite good enough and needed big money signings to get him over the line. Funny that.

 

[TimothéeAtouba]

Pretty much how I see our situation regarding Poch. There are some who question Poch’s signings but really, no manager in ENIC’s history had ever free reigns over signings. It was always Levy.

ENIC has done some good things for the club in that they made us much more stable financially. Now that they’ve built the new stadium, I do with they’d sell the team to someone with more ambition and fuck off.

They’ve pissed away some glorious opportunities.

 

[John Thomas]

Ossie Wembley right now

 

[Tomo]

Firstly, “prime Kane, Eriksen, Dembele, Son, Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Walker, Lloris and Alli.” What the fuck did any of those players achieve before Pochettino became their manager? What can you possibly base your assumption that these players were good enough to win honours without reinforcements on? Pure and utter drivel.

You talk about Liverpool having the same model as ours. They do to a certain degree, but they used said model to back their manager. The signed players that he wanted in positions that needed strengthening in the team. But CRUCIALLY, the did so at the right time. They didn’t wait until the team he had became stale and tired before they signed Alison, VVD, Keita, Fabinho etc.

I actually remember Spurs fans wanting to sell Dembele who was unfit and frustrating, while Walker was doing Aurier brain farts all the time and Vertonghen under AVB looking disinterested. They all changed dramatically under Poch, Dembele in particular.

 

[Dr Rocktopus]

Leicester is a one of 1 in a hundred year event predicated on a hit and run system that most other teams didn’t adapt to till it was too late.

And PEDs.

 

[sammyspurs]

It’s almost as if people are saying that Pochettino wasn’t quite good enough and needed big money signings to get him over the line. Funny that.

That’s exactly what they are saying......because they called it the best squad in decades.
Lloris, Dembele, Kane,Dele, Jan, Toby, Walker, Rose, Son all playing at world class levels.
Back up that could walk into any top 4 team.

“one tricky winger” was all we needed for longevity.

Vardy was shit wasn’t he? Still people claim he wouldn’t get in our team today, lol.

So how on earth could not beating Leicester at home be the owners and chairman’s fault?
And throwing 2-0 to Chelsea, losing to west ham and throwing a 2-1 lead to ten men Woolwich?

The manager has never had a winning mentality, has never won anything and likely never will.

Levy has fucked up. But not that year, and he didn’t pick the sides and tactics that cost us multiple semi finals and finals.

 

[sammyspurs]

Yet they never went after him and that is with him blatantly wanting the man u job, weird that isn't it. Has a big club taken him yet?

Sooner or later the failures all start to add up.

Despite some spurs fans saying he was begging for scraps, the money men at the big clubs look at the actual 400M he had spent on some 20 odd players in his five years, plus the actual fact he had one of Europe’s most potent front three in Kane, Dele and Eriksen who only cost a combined 19M.

Some use the logic that because Andy Carroll cost 35M then Poch wasn’t backed. But the hierarchy at Real see it for what it was......a manager that couldn’t see them over the line time and time again.
The CL showing rightly put in the doubts, then the following 7 months and previous 4 hammered in the final nail in the coffin.

 

[Spursidol]

That's debatable .
We're now saddled £850 million worth of debt. Some of which will be outstanding until 2050, and interest alone at 35-40million a year until 2042.

You obviously cannot calculate interest - average interest rates on bonds were about 2.4% or something on £637m of bond financing deal so circa £15m pa.

Coronavirus facility at 0.5% on £175m so circa £800k pa.

 

[Mensa]

Nothing is as simple as "Oh X was to blame" It's so extreme, so 2020 when people blind to anything outside of their idea.

Let's face it, its a combination of Chairman, manager and players, all did amazing things and dropped the ball when it mattered, all of them. So instead of going on and on and on picking sides and saying "oh no THEY were to blame", accept it, they all fucked up.

The killer is this isn't 97-03 when we had general acceptance of being shit, we had a real chance, so it hurts more as we look to pin the blame on who we hate the most. Thing is as Roy Keane said "Disappointment, its in Tottenhams DNA" and he is right

 

[BernardMatthews]

The reality is Spurs had their chance when Leicester won the title, and to a certain extent we blew it - if we hadn't thrown the lead vs 10 men woolwich, we would have gone top of the table and psychologically I think that Leicester would have crumbled.

This x 100. We blew it.

Early in the season we played 4 had 3 points. From a possible 12.
Threw away points at home to Stoke when cruising 2-0 up and all over them. We blew a lead at Leicester next game. 1-1. Drew at home 0-0 with Everton.

And then last day of the season didn’t turn up. So the big gap in points is Bollocks. We absolutely had a chance that season.

Losing at home to Leicester a massive letdown. That was the key. When we played them only 4 points behind them. They weren’t even top. They went 7 points ahead of us. It could have been 1 point.........

Look at that game. Not Poch‘s fault. His tactics worked. 63% possession 21 shots. We bossed it. Players again let down in their biggest match of the season.

Kane missed best chance of the match. Prior to that they had been on a downward spin.

We fucked it. Plain and simple.

 

[MiddxSpur]

The article unravelled itself in the very first paragraph:

If you had told someone in the summer of 2016, just after Tottenham had announced themselves to the world and run Leicester close to the title, that the team would go on to win a grand total of zero major trophies under Mauricio Pochettino, few would have believed you. How could one of the most dynamic, exciting groups of players in recent Premier League history, led by a charismatic young manager, with their peaks yet to come and their entire careers in front of them, end up trophyless?


Therein lies the rub.
Not City, not Chelsea, not Utd, not Liverpool, not Woolwich.

But Leicester.

For all ENIC and Levys failing, bottling that season wasn’t one of them.
Poch and the players failed to out perform Danny Drinkwater and Robert Huth.

That’s all there is to it.

I think we had so many self inflicted sliding door moments that stopped us winning trophies.
The season Leicester won the league they beat us 0-1 at WHL. Kane so nearly scored to take the lead, then our CBs trip over each other to leave Huth free to score late on from a corner. That was a 6 point swing and would later in the season prove too big a gap to close.

 

[Kristeva]

Another term for sliding door moments is synchronicities, also known as meaningful coincidences.
Traditionally synchronicities were meant to signify some kind of spirituality and divine connection, but at Spurs, I think our synchronicities are nefarious in nature, and controlled from below.

You're talking batshit mate, synchronicities is an album by the Police, or as they're otherwise known....Sting.

 

[Incomplete_usernam]

This is a sober wll constructed reminder of where why and when we went from title contenders, to a firmly mid table side.

Very true.