Tottenham Hotspur B - Checkatrade Trophy 2017-2018 - The Road to Wembley

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The club I work for are an ex Conference club. in 1988 we had to stop playing as our ground was sold. We started again in 2000 at THE bottom of the pyramid. Since 2000 we have won 4 titles and 6 promotions to get to the Conference North. 2 steps below League 2.
Stick in a League 3 and you are effectively pushing us down another level after we worked fucking hard to get to where we are now. why, because for some reason people think that u21s playing at level 4 will benefit England.
Bollocks.
if they are good enough between 17 and 21 they will be pushing the first team. Rooney, Shaw to name but 2. With the way the academies are set up now premier clubs have the pick of the best youth in the country anyway, so why not sign these players, give them the academy coaching, but leave them at the club they signed them from to also develop within the first team arena. Don't sign them, train them and then basically play them against other u21s and conference players. That won't help.
The only way to assist is the restriction on foreign players, and an u21 rule for the 1st team as they do in Scotland. They won't though because of that one thing. Money.
The FA need to look at bringing more coaches through, reducing the costs of getting badges and get rid of the red tape.
As I mentioned before. German clubs want to do away with the B league and bring back the u21 league, so what do they know that we don't?

Oh and one other thing, the Premier League have basically blackmailed the League and Conference by telling them they will reduce funding if they don't accept this proposal. Fair?
 
Rocket said:
Well, looks like we've accepted the invitation to this years EFL Checkatrade Trophy for our U21's. Personally I reckon it's a good thing for the club / youngsters. It will give them a chance of game time against lower league opposition. It might toughen them up a bit and broaden their experience rather than only being pitted against players of their own age, strength and ability. OK it may not be a particularly high pressure / meaningful match situation, but it'll give them another chance to show the management what they are capable of.

EFL Official Website Checkatrade Trophy: Invited under-21 teams confirmed for 2017/18

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Sorry mate, can't agree. Top flight clubs shouldn't be in this competition in any capacity in my opinion, the whole point of it is to give 3rd and 4th Division teams a stab at glory and a massive day out at Wembley.

By all means have a higher profile knockout competition for the yoot but we shouldn't be hijacking one which has a long and proud history of its own and which is specifically designed for others
 
Missed the first goal taking a piss.

Missed the second goal in the bar.

Got up to leave at end of game and they announced a penalty shoot out.

Lost the penalties.

Worth the trip.

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CLS

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...B-teams-to-enter-Johnstones-Paint-Trophy.html

In light of the talk about a "League 3" filled with Premier League B sides, the Football League has proposed a trial where for the next two seasons 16 B teams from the Premier League will enter the Johnstone's Paint Trophy, expanded to incorporate a group stage to fit such teams in with the 48 members of League 1 and 2. This would almost certainly include us, as a Category 1 academy and apparently a key supporter of the B-Team plan.

So, where will the young Spurs be travelling if this goes ahead? All home matches would be played at White Hart Lane with at least 1 guaranteed in the group stage, so will we be seeing 1882 cheer on Kane and whoever pisses off Poch against the might of Chesterfield? Or a Tuesday night away day to sunny Carlisle? And perhaps, at the end of it all, Wembley - where we can end our 7-year trophy drought if we can overcome the might of Tranmere Rovers. Being banished to the reserves never looked so appealing.
 
I went to Luton once, as soon as I came out the train station I noticed somebody have put a joint out on top of a dog shit, summing up the place in one simple metaphor.

Still quite fancy going to these away games.
 
palmers_green_yid said:
I don't want us to lose. But I don't want to support us being included in the competition by going to the game.

It's a far bigger deal than CL dropouts being included in EL and the whole inclusion of the B teams reeks of modern football IMO. Money and privilege over the interests of the fans.
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I don't want us to lose per se, I just don't want us, or any other top flight B team to progress. If that involves us losing, so be it. For exactly the reasons you mention.

Start another competition, for just B teams or with 3rd and 4th Div teams invited, by all means. It's purely and simply that we and others shouldn't be hijacking this one
 
gibbs131 said:
What good has the loan system ever done for us? Made Rose and Townsend look better than they were compared to the unfashionable players around them..only for them to get played ahead of the likes of Lamela, BAE and others to rot as they derbed around and ruined out season. Even when GDS did well on loan scoring and assisting for fun Harry didn't play him (and he turned into a superstar). BAE and Carroll are having terrible reviews with QPR. KPB did a GDS where he went on loan to Germany, we sold him for peanuts and he went onto be a superstar.

I want what best for the players. The loan system has been a disaster IMO. Players have had horrific injuries, they are so stretched far and wide it's hard to keep up with them and it becomes a chore looking them up.

I can't understand the backlash against it for footballing reasons. It far outweighs the big bad machine aspect of it when it comes to our current situation.

We lost Berbatov and the mancs gave us a joke of a fricken striker on loan...it's taken the piss if anything.
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Lol. Didn't even mention the loan system. You're an odd egg Gibbs. Using random fleeting comments to go off on one. I like you.
 
gibbs131 said:
Why should the club you work for be scared of a new challenge? Why would your clubs players not want to play against high profile players on thousands?


You said your ground was sold and you made it back. I said that earlier, it's patronizing to smaller clubs thinking they will just go away. It's not like people stopped supporting yours and it didn't have a ground.


Playing Chelsea B team and stuffing them will be great for everyone, prestige, players on 14 k a week getting stuffed etc etc.


The last part you mentioned I don't know about. Is it less money than they are currently getting, or is it they wont get the Prem B team money? For it to work, the lower league teams HAVE to get more money out of it surely?
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i actually find this post really patronising.
fuck the little clubs. Their players want to play the big boys. you done it once you can do it again.
my players want to play as high as they can yes, on a level playing field against teams of a similar stature. Not against a clubs reserve team.
They play because they love the game. not for thousands a week.
Alex Pritchard for example is going to gain NO benefit playing against Nuneaton. he'd gain more at Swindon against better players.
The whole thing is farcical.
sort out the coaching and the grass roots facilities before anything else. Help the lower leagues produce the better players for the big boys instead if taking them at age 8 and coaching the natural ability and love of the game out if them.
As for my last point. The FA has said they may have to reduce the (pitiful) funding they give the league and conference if it's not accepted.
 
The Champions League is screwing the PL and the PL is screwing lower league and non-league football.

The Sky and billionaire owners' club cartel has got us all steamed up about getting 4th place. That can't be right surely? Aim to win the league and either succeed or fail gloriously. That's what makes it fun not the tension of trying to scrape 4th place.

Having heard from a PL youth team manager about how the bigger (richer) clubs nick the youth that the smaller clubs have scouted by offering the player a high salary and giving their parents highly paid "jobs" I'm pretty sickened by modern football.

I wouldn't mind so much if the billionaire clubs were gathering up youth players to play them. It's often just to stop others getting them.

I know that the richer clubs have always taken from the poorer (and we've been guilty of this) but there used to be food on everyone's table. Not now.

This B team bollocks is just another screw over.

Sorry if I've ranted.
 
I know there's a more recent thread than this somewhere, but I'm fucked if I can find it.

Anyway our U21's have been drawn against Gillingham, Colchester and Ipswich in the EFL Trophy this year.
3 relatively local teams. Could give some fans a chance to get out and see some of the faces we hear about on here.

Also WHam drew Exeter, Cheltenham and Newport County. Not quite so local for them. Unlucky.
 
gibbs131 said:
Thinking teams will cease to be is PATRONIZING to the fans in the lower levels. What would you do if Spurs were in the lower league and threatened by this aspect? Stop going to games? Stop supporting them?
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lol it's the fans of lower league clubs that explained what it would really meant to them. I'm patronizing no-one here. Genuinely don't have a clue what you mean by that next question... obviously I wouldn't stop supporting them.
gibbs131 said:
The young Spurs players would love it.
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couldn't give a fuck tbh. Goes against a lot of what I believe in myself so the last thing on my mind is thinking about how much they'd enjoy it.
 
Bill Madrid said:
Because we have no place in this competition. It's for 3rd and 4th Division teams, if they get to Wembley its the best thing ever for them, the whole town celebrates. 1st and 2nd Division B teams shouldn't be in it and I hope all of them get knocked out ASAP. Alex from Bristol put it far better than I can on a pod a few episodes ago, but I felt exactly the same way last year when we weren't in it, as did friends of mine who support lower league teams.
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...and CL dropouts have no place in the Europa League knockout stages IMHO.
Wouldn't stop me from supporting Spurs if we DID find ourselves in that situation later this season.

Until we get to decide who plays in what competition... I'll just support the club in whatever Cup we're represented in!
 
gibbs131 said:
"TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR B - JOHNSTONE'S PAINT TROPHY CAMPAIGN 2014-15 "

It is patronizing to think lower league clubs will suffer. I've been beaten unconscious by lower league fans. What are they going to do? Not kick my face in because their team went out of the league? Lose their passion for the game?

They can look after themselves.
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Well, looks like we've accepted the invitation to this years EFL Checkatrade Trophy for our U21's. Personally I reckon it's a good thing for the club / youngsters. It will give them a chance of game time against lower league opposition. It might toughen them up a bit and broaden their experience rather than only being pitted against players of their own age, strength and ability. OK it may not be a particularly high pressure / meaningful match situation, but it'll give them another chance to show the management what they are capable of.

EFL Official Website Checkatrade Trophy: Invited under-21 teams confirmed for 2017/18

 
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