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CLS said:
If it's gonna happen, it may as well be in the tournament where most of the clubs involved would send us personal thank-you cards if we knocked them out a round earlier than they'd have otherwise had to endure.
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but at the end of it is a day out at Wembley for those fans. I'll be amazed if you find too many that would rather get knocked out earlier than go the whole way and get the day at Wembley.

Also, if this goes ahead it'll just be the start.
 
Bumchin said:
The club I work for are an ex Conference club. in 1988 we had to stop playing as our ground was sold. We started again in 2000 at THE bottom of the pyramid. Since 2000 we have won 4 titles and 6 promotions to get to the Conference North. 2 steps below League 2.
Stick in a League 3 and you are effectively pushing us down another level after we worked fucking hard to get to where we are now. why, because for some reason people think that u21s playing at level 4 will benefit England.
Bollocks.
if they are good enough between 17 and 21 they will be pushing the first team. Rooney, Shaw to name but 2. With the way the academies are set up now premier clubs have the pick of the best youth in the country anyway, so why not sign these players, give them the academy coaching, but leave them at the club they signed them from to also develop within the first team arena. Don't sign them, train them and then basically play them against other u21s and conference players. That won't help.
The only way to assist is the restriction on foreign players, and an u21 rule for the 1st team as they do in Scotland. They won't though because of that one thing. Money.
The FA need to look at bringing more coaches through, reducing the costs of getting badges and get rid of the red tape.
As I mentioned before. German clubs want to do away with the B league and bring back the u21 league, so what do they know that we don't?

Oh and one other thing, the Premier League have basically blackmailed the League and Conference by telling them they will reduce funding if they don't accept this proposal. Fair?
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Why should the club you work for be scared of a new challenge? Why would your clubs players not want to play against high profile players on thousands?

You said your ground was sold and you made it back. I said that earlier, it's patronizing to smaller clubs thinking they will just go away. It's not like people stopped supporting yours and it didn't have a ground.

Playing Chelsea B team and stuffing them will be great for everyone, prestige, players on 14 k a week getting stuffed etc etc.

The last part you mentioned I don't know about. Is it less money than they are currently getting, or is it they wont get the Prem B team money? For it to work, the lower league teams HAVE to get more money out of it surely?
 
Bumchin said:
The club I work for are an ex Conference club. in 1988 we had to stop playing as our ground was sold. We started again in 2000 at THE bottom of the pyramid. Since 2000 we have won 4 titles and 6 promotions to get to the Conference North. 2 steps below League 2.
Stick in a League 3 and you are effectively pushing us down another level after we worked fucking hard to get to where we are now. why, because for some reason people think that u21s playing at level 4 will benefit England.
Bollocks.
if they are good enough between 17 and 21 they will be pushing the first team. Rooney, Shaw to name but 2. With the way the academies are set up now premier clubs have the pick of the best youth in the country anyway, so why not sign these players, give them the academy coaching, but leave them at the club they signed them from to also develop within the first team arena. Don't sign them, train them and then basically play them against other u21s and conference players. That won't help.
The only way to assist is the restriction on foreign players, and an u21 rule for the 1st team as they do in Scotland. They won't though because of that one thing. Money.
The FA need to look at bringing more coaches through, reducing the costs of getting badges and get rid of the red tape.
As I mentioned before. German clubs want to do away with the B league and bring back the u21 league, so what do they know that we don't?

Oh and one other thing, the Premier League have basically blackmailed the League and Conference by telling them they will reduce funding if they don't accept this proposal. Fair?
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Great post, I agree 100%, what the hell is happening with modern football?
Back in the 70's Liverpool won the league & European cup and used something like 13 players all season. Today top flight clubs have bloated first team squads and endless players in the youth teams. And they wonder why they all can't get a game. There was nothing wrong with the old football combination, at least that competition gave the clubs an opportunity to give playing time to fringe players and minutes on the pitch to those coming back from injury.

The FA are supposed to be the guardians of our game, they are duty bound to look after the interest of the game as a whole, and that includes non league teams as well.
I watch a lot of non league footy, and fans at that level are really against the league 3 idea, and this new plan is another ill thought out idea just to appease the top flight clubs.
 
Bumchin said:
matches v reserve teams are usually very poorly attended.
again Germany can have attendances of less than 300
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Oh what the fuck do you know - the Gibberer doesn't have to actually know what he's talking about to be able to put you down and patronise you. He has a track record of talking total shit on every conceivable subject related to football - a subject he clearly has no coherent knowledge of.
Know your place.
:D

I hadn't realised that the club secretary cleaned the toilets.......
 
From a personal perspective, I think I would be more inclined to go watch my local 4th division team play Spurs B made up of aspiring youngsters, 1st teamer's recovering fitness after injury and 1st team squad players - than seeing Worksop Town or Harrogate Railway Club show up. The down side is that its a bit like the CL group stage failures drop down into the Europa cup, the competition was designed for the lower leagues participation.
I would have thought that there would be enough sponsors to come up with a cup for the clubs in the top 2 divisions to compete for. It would be a nice gesture if all the money generated went to football development as well, rather than straight back into the coffers of the participants. That way it would discourage teams from dropping the first teamers as their B side progressed through the competition
 
Nantynew said:
The Champions League is screwing the PL and the PL is screwing lower league and non-league football.

The Sky and billionaire owners' club cartel has got us all steamed up about getting 4th place. That can't be right surely? Aim to win the league and either succeed or fail gloriously. That's what makes it fun not the tension of trying to scrape 4th place.

Having heard from a PL youth team manager about how the bigger (richer) clubs nick the youth that the smaller clubs have scouted by offering the player a high salary and giving their parents highly paid "jobs" I'm pretty sickened by modern football.

I wouldn't mind so much if the billionaire clubs were gathering up youth players to play them. It's often just to stop others getting them.

I know that the richer clubs have always taken from the poorer (and we've been guilty of this) but there used to be food on everyone's table. Not now.

This B team bollocks is just another screw over.

Sorry if I've ranted.
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Thank you for sharing..............
Lie down on this couch and tell me about your childhood
 
Hopefully we get a decent group. Playing against men at a higher standard than youth level football is a great experience and could serve them well when coming into the first team etc
 
Looking forward to these matches and watching our youngsters play at some interesting places. It would be nice to get a decent turnout and some vocal backing for them too.
 
If there isn't a boycott then I'd be up for all of them. Quite appealing away trips really. Been to all the grounds before though, although think Barnet have moved since Underhill so that would be new
 
We are in Southern Group F along with Luton Town, AFC Wimbledon and Barnet and, as one of the invited Category One Academy clubs, will play all three group matches away.

Our fixtures are shown below….

Tue 15 Aug – Luton Town (A) – 7.45pm
Tue 3 Oct – AFC Wimbledon (A) – 7.45pm
Tue 28 Nov – Barnet (A) – 8pm

Ticket details for all three fixtures will follow in due course.
 
CSWY said:
Be great to rustle up a decent support for these games, revive the 1882 movement and give some support to lower league clubs (financially only, of course). I'll definitely make Wimbledon and, pending fixture scheduling, Barnet away. Hope we get one of the terraces at Barnet, mind...
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I'll start ripping up some paper then shall I?:kanehand:
 
I'm up for it. Would love to away days at all of these grounds as found it impossible to get away tickets this year for the first 11. Only made it to two boro and fulham (neutral stand)
 
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