Im in 322. The ST holder 3 seats to the right of me is 80. Good bloke to be honest but there is no way he wants to stand or sing. Even though i might be in it soon, i think the club should seriously consider some 'over 65 only blocks'.
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That's it for me mate.
For the last couple of years it's just made me angry, if I'm being honest! The exact scenarios you're describing are just depressing. The marketing prior to the ground opening didn't help either. 'Our Yellow Wall', 'just like Dortmund' etc. The reality is anything but.
I have the utmost admiration for people much older than me who still go every week, I really do. I don't quite know how you tolerate it, having actually lived through the late 70's / 80's etc (I'm not craving kicking people's head in every week, just a some sort of atmosphere around a game would be nice) but fair play to you all. However, I'm not well off enough to continue spending a fortune on something I no longer have the buzz for, so I've drawn the line. Tottenham will always mean to the world to me, but I just cannot justify it anymore, which guts me if I'm honest, but that's PL football today, I suppose.
No one was celebrating. Not like they still are at the fact we lost a CL Final by not having a shot until the 86th minuteThere is always going to be a link between on the field entertainment and atmosphere. At times, it was great under Jol, Redknapp, AVB and Poch; at times, it was shit. The early games under Mou were decent - even Bournemouth at home was very loud and positive throughout. But the atmosphere has collapsed along with the performances. I know Mou has a tough job with our injuries but the approach and negativity is depressing the fuck out of everyone. Celebrating the performance against Wolves as an improvement shows how utterly putrid our recent attempts at football have been. It’s down there with AVB’s last season.
Can we stick Ndombele in there with themIm in 322. The ST holder 3 seats to the right of me is 80. Good bloke to be honest but there is no way he wants to stand or sing. Even though i might be in it soon, i think the club should seriously consider some 'over 65 only blocks'.
Can we stick Ndombele in there with them
Just drop your Tottenham Pie if he does get too closeI'd nut him and run away. He would never catch me despite the fact i have not seen the inside of a gym since 1992.
Just drop your Tottenham Pie if he does get too close
And herein lies the difficulty for us oldies. I was never into the "hooligan scene". However, I do understand that football was so much more than going to watch 90 mins. It was a social event with mates. Even if you worked Saturday mornings it was still a full day. Meet at 12, pub, walk to the ground, watch the game, pub and out in the evening. All mixed in with a bit of trouble if you were so inclined.That was half the fun.
Especially at 4 quid a pop...Mate, have you seen me? I havent thrown a pie away since 1992 either!
And herein lies the difficulty for us oldies. I was never into the "hooligan scene". However, I do understand that football was so much more than going to watch 90 mins. It was a social event with mates. Even if you worked Saturday mornings it was still a full day. Meet at 12, pub, walk to the ground, watch the game, pub and out in the evening. All mixed in with a bit of trouble if you were so inclined.
Football has changed so much for various reasons, all seaters, no drinking, ticket prices, kick off times and days, etc.. that for the people who used to create the atmosphere the enjoyment just isn't there anymore, and it can't be recreated by the next generations.
I think what it boils down to is that we have to accept you aren't going to get your football experience back. So you either like it (put up with what you've got) or lump it ( Sunglasses Ron for example).
I suspect the stadium will still be full enough for many many years to come with the type of clientele that not only ENIC but the FA, the premier league, UEFA, FIFA, Dubai, Qatar, Relevent etc. all want.
This is my view as well.And herein lies the difficulty for us oldies. I was never into the "hooligan scene". However, I do understand that football was so much more than going to watch 90 mins. It was a social event with mates. Even if you worked Saturday mornings it was still a full day. Meet at 12, pub, walk to the ground, watch the game, pub and out in the evening. All mixed in with a bit of trouble if you were so inclined.
Football has changed so much for various reasons, all seaters, no drinking, ticket prices, kick off times and days, etc.. that for the people who used to create the atmosphere the enjoyment just isn't there anymore, and it can't be recreated by the next generations.
I think what it boils down to is that we have to accept you aren't going to get your football experience back. So you either like it (put up with what you've got) or lump it ( Sunglasses Ron for example).
I suspect the stadium will still be full enough for many many years to come with the type of clientele that not only ENIC but the FA, the premier league, UEFA, FIFA, Dubai, Qatar, Relevent etc. all want.
I think its a change in the fanbase and the culture.I am Australian and have only had the pleasure of going to WHL once in my life and will go to the new place for the first time this year so not here to critique the atmosphere of a place I've never been.
But do the people who hate the atmosphere in the new ground think it is because of the ground itself or the stringent measures by security etc? Surely if they made the bottom half of the Southern stand safe standing (pipe dream) for example that would improve the atmosphere drastically. Another drawback to the increased capacity is of course extra tourists, and whilst I would relish the chance (as I think every foreign fan on this forum would) to go to the ground and help to create a good atmosphere the majority just are there for an Instagram picture which is super depressing.
To be fair, the bottom of the south stand is standing now, but the mix of fans (along with the current on field offering) appears to be the issue. It seems possible that too many of the "wrong" people relocated to the area in the first sales windows without properly considering what they were doing. As has been said here that could have been for a number of reasons, but whatever the root cause, the club could do with doing something about it if they can. And in fairness they appear to be trying to make steps towards that this year. Although removing concessions for Youth and Young Adult tickets will probably not help the situation. I think the reasoning behind that decision is bullshit if I'm honest.I am Australian and have only had the pleasure of going to WHL once in my life and will go to the new place for the first time this year so not here to critique the atmosphere of a place I've never been.
But do the people who hate the atmosphere in the new ground think it is because of the ground itself or the stringent measures by security etc? Surely if they made the bottom half of the Southern stand safe standing (pipe dream) for example that would improve the atmosphere drastically. Another drawback to the increased capacity is of course extra tourists, and whilst I would relish the chance (as I think every foreign fan on this forum would) to go to the ground and help to create a good atmosphere the majority just are there for an Instagram picture which is super depressing.
I am Australian and have only had the pleasure of going to WHL once in my life and will go to the new place for the first time this year so not here to critique the atmosphere of a place I've never been.
But do the people who hate the atmosphere in the new ground think it is because of the ground itself or the stringent measures by security etc? Surely if they made the bottom half of the Southern stand safe standing (pipe dream) for example that would improve the atmosphere drastically. Another drawback to the increased capacity is of course extra tourists, and whilst I would relish the chance (as I think every foreign fan on this forum would) to go to the ground and help to create a good atmosphere the majority just are there for an Instagram picture which is super depressing.
I'd expect Norwich to be standing in all 3 tiers.
I'm an ST holder in the East Upper so I took my first opportunity to move into South lower for the Boro game. Minute two and the 75+ year old couple behind asking me to sit down. It really is the white wall.
I haven’t sat down for a minute of any game in the south lower since the stadium has opened.
If you're talking about the actual west stand rather than the south west corner of the south stand then the chances are they aren't allowed to stand.It looks like the corner of the West sits most games which is an utter disgrace.