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If it was to get elected against someone you perceived to be a racist right winger, say like Boris and the implication was any Tory is essentially a racist anyway?
You don't perceive Johnson as racist?
I wouldn't say it was a racist statement then because Johnson is racist, he HAS said racist things against black people. Not just black people but anyone against racism shouldn't vote for him, they don't have to vote left wing, just don't vote for him.
 
You don't perceive Johnson as racist?
I wouldn't say it was a racist statement then because Johnson is racist, he HAS said racist things against black people. Not just black people but anyone against racism shouldn't vote for him, they don't have to vote left wing, just don't vote for him.
As we’re all now off thread I voted for Boris because he promised Brexit
And delivered!
 
You don't perceive Johnson as racist?
I wouldn't say it was a racist statement then because Johnson is racist, he HAS said racist things against black people. Not just black people but anyone against racism shouldn't vote for him, they don't have to vote left wing, just don't vote for him.
Oh god
Are their no limits to the cobblers you post?

What next, he's satanist, paedophile, misogynist nazi?

Are there any human failings that you have yet to accuse him of?
 
Bearing in mind the players knew what the Hungarian fans were like why did they provoke them. Taking the knee is known to be disliked in Hungary. Why did Sterling take his shirt off to reveal that message which the fans would not understand and could have misinterpreted and run towards the corner flag in front of fans. Goal scorers normally go towards their own fans to celebrate but there was not any England fans. They should have stayed in the middle of the pitch.
None of this excuses racism and I am not sure how much was solely aimed at the black players. Kane said he did not hear it and did the media highlight it for a story? I expect Hungary will be punished but I just wish we were completely blameless.



Wtf .... give your head a wobble

You wish we were blameless ? ffs you're part of the problem.

Why should they have to act any different at any stadia in the world? Why should anyone have to worry about their creed, colour, religion, sexual orientation whatever?

Football is a game that brings joy to billions but it has always had a problem that its not only tribal but that it attracts the lowest inbred, thick, ignorant, disgusting, morons.

Anyone, whether it's a player, a fan, someone who works at the stadium etc should be able to go there feeling safe, feeling like they won't get abused, felling like the game looks after them. At this moment in time it doesn't, for all the media spin about bend the knee blm etc, the real problem lies not just with the fans, but with the bodies themselves like UEFA and FIFA. Until they come down hard on these countries and start banning them from tournaments things will never change and until fans like you stop giving these countries an excuse saying they were goaded then things will sadly never change.

Shame.
 
Oh god
Are their no limits to the cobblers you post?

What next, he's satanist, paedophile, misogynist nazi?

Are there any human failings that you have yet to accuse him of?
Describing black people as flag waving piccaninnies with watermelon smiles is not racist then?
 
I have a few obsessed bores on ignore and it dose a weird thing when any thing vile happens like in the England game. You get page after page of their name where the usual suspects are doing their whataboutary. Admin Admin can't you fix so the "its all the left racisms not real types " just disappear name and all? Its funny because you can see the stuff they are hot for them names never appear discussing our right- back, or Lucas Mora. They should just get on the Spectator blogs or Telegram.
 
Describing black people as flag waving piccaninnies with watermelon smiles is not racist then?
The first comment was him quoting other people's words, and a watermelon smile is a simile, like grinning like the Cheshire cat.
But I will agree that when he talks about problems that touch on race and religions that he has issues with, he should pick his words more carefully - to avoid the legions of tossers who scream racist over anything he says, irrespective of the accuracy of his comments.
He isn't sensitive enough to the hyperactive critical overdrive that brimming and frothing left leaning supporters can get into, whilst ignoring the severity of the,issues he's addressing.
 
The first comment was him quoting other people's words, and a watermelon smile is a simile, like grinning like the Cheshire cat.
This was his full comment, who was he quoting? Associating black people with watermelon is a racist stereotype, that's why watermelon smile is an offensive
“They say he is shortly off to the Congo. No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird.”


“What a relief it must be for Blair to get out of England. It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies; and one can imagine that Blair, twice victor abroad but enmired at home, is similarly seduced by foreign politeness.”
But I will agree that when he talks about problems that touch on race and religions that he has issues with, he should pick his words more carefully - to avoid the legions of tossers who scream racist over anything he says, irrespective of the accuracy of his comments.
He isn't sensitive enough to the hyperactive critical overdrive that brimming and frothing left leaning supporters can get into, whilst ignoring the severity of the,issues he's addressing.
His description about black people or Muslim women isn't accurate at all and he's been criticised by people in his own party about it, so it's not just about the left being angry at what he said.
 
This was his full comment, who was he quoting? Associating black people with watermelon is a racist stereotype, that's why watermelon smile is an offensive
“They say he is shortly off to the Congo. No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird.”


“What a relief it must be for Blair to get out of England. It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies; and one can imagine that Blair, twice victor abroad but enmired at home, is similarly seduced by foreign politeness.”

His description about black people or Muslim women isn't accurate at all and he's been criticised by people in his own party about it, so it's not just about the left being angry at what he said.
As I said, he has a bad habit of not thinking ahead, to avoid people who will find fault in the exact words he uses and not about the issues he's addressing.
If you choose to use the expression watermelon smile to be a simile about black people exclusively, then it seems to me that it an issue for you to deal with. I do agree that if he had said Chesire cat, then it would have avoided people like you from choosing to focus on the words in his speech rather than the situation he was addressing.
It's who you are
 
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