• The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...

    Get involved!

Management Ange Postecoglou

Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports

John Duncan said:
99.999 % of his eggs in the Europa
League basket and a bit of that fluff you occasionally find stuck onto an egg put into the basket marked “ The Carabao Cup “ .

He knew what he was doing; and it worked out for him aka US .

What’s not to like ? ( Even if it’s with the benefit of hindsight) .
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
He was fully committed to the Carabao Cup, the two teams that played in that final are harder to beat than the team that we played in the Europa League final. We got knocked out of the Carabao Cup because the opposition were tougher.

It's nothing to do with not liking this or that, or using hindsight, it's just what it is.

Anyway I've made my point and see no value in continuing this conversation.
 
McCOYS said:
He was fully committed to the Carabao Cup, the two teams that played in that final are harder to beat than the team that we played in the Europa League final. We got knocked out of the Carabao Cup because the opposition were tougher.

It's nothing to do with not liking this or that, or using hindsight, it's just what it is.

Anyway I've made my point and see no value in continuing this conversation.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Fair enough; hope you enjoyed today.
 
daveyboy88 said:
for the fact that we would be playing championship football if there wasnt such a gap created by the prem and championship.

winning europa is nice, but it doesnt make up for losing 22 games in a single league season! thats beyond disgraceful.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
We could've been relegated and still won the Europa league it doesnt change the fact that we would be still be in the champions league next season
Not bad for a championship league club?
The championship is probably 1 of the toughest and most competitive leagues in Europe
I see a championship league trophy in our sights and right now i couldnt give a fuck what silverware it is
We want more
 
Geezergood19 said:
We could've been relegated and still won the Europa league it doesnt change the fact that we would be still be in the champions league next season
Not bad for a championship league club?
The championship is probably 1 of the toughest and most competitive leagues in Europe
I see a championship league trophy in our sights and right now i couldnt give a fuck what silverware it is
We want more
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
yea, you have no standards.
 
FightingIllini said:
Dude, there are now FOUR such figures at the club in an official or unofficial capacity.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Seems like part of the problem to me.

Levy can’t be held responsible but if you are he, you ought to have one employee reporting directly to you who is ultimately responsible for all the footballing decisions. That one person implements his plan, makes personnel decisions, and either succeeds or pays with his job. No ambiguity about who is responsible or who makes final decisions.

The clubs that succeed at the highest levels don’t run on vibes and sentimentality. They are results driven, ruthlessly when required. And rarely is ownership down in the day to day operations.

Accountability is cultural and success can’t be sustained without it
 
Deuterz said:
Yeah only Ange could have achieved the miracle of beating AZ, Frankfurt or Bodo. Only him. Deluded fucking waffle.

You were wrong. We finished 17th. This manager is fucking shite and has been for a year and a half, one cup run doesn’t change shit and anyone on here with a functioning brain knows it. Only the thick as shit posters who I wouldn’t piss on if they were on fire continue to argue otherwise.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Frankfurt and United have knocked Barcelona out of this fucking competition. We ourselves have been knocked out by the likes of Dinamo Zagreb and Gent. Fucking enjoy it for once that he got us over the line. Shit tactician? Absolutely. But we haven't beaten teams in the Champions League, and we haven't lost against shit sides in the EL because of tactics, we've lost them because of the mentality, and this guy, with all the fucking downsides and shortcomings that he has, instilled a winning mentality into this group of players, and I can't thank him enough for that.
 
Darnswim 🇦🇱 said:
he has, instilled a winning mentality into this group of players, and I can't thank him enough for that.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
hey?? for winning the europa? winning mentality is built of the back of winning games consistently. do you think the wigan players had a winning mentality cos they won the FA cup? weve lost 21 games and probably going to be 22 in the league on sunday..weve won 11...we do not have a winning mentality all of a sudden for beating a shit united side thanks to an own goal from a tubby bastard.

the win gives the players a huge confidence boost yes, but winning mentality? no chance.
 
kcspurs said:
Seems like part of the problem to me.

Levy can’t be held responsible but if you are he, you ought to have one employee reporting directly to you who is ultimately responsible for all the footballing decisions. That one person implements his plan, makes personnel decisions, and either succeeds or pays with his job. No ambiguity about who is responsible or who makes final decisions.

The clubs that succeed at the highest levels don’t run on vibes and sentimentality. They are results driven, ruthlessly when required. And rarely is ownership down in the day to day operations.

Accountability is cultural and success can’t be sustained without it
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Ange and Levy both out?

You've got yourself a deal, my friend

Arnold Schwarzenegger Handshake GIF
 
Deuterz said:
Prem & CL teams are a different stratosphere to the Europa league. Which is why this fucking fraud chucked it all at the Europa league anyway - it’s the only competition he knew he could do something in.

Can you imagine this side under his coaching dealing with Barca, PSG etc? It doesn’t bare thinking about. Alkmaar, Frankfurt and United gave us fierce contests FFS.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
May I ask a silly question?
Which manager will have a nice time not to mention winning RM, Barca, PSG etc. with our current squad? If you know him just say it loud and Levy will do the rest.

Although on second thought Ange and his bus could sometimes get a draw.
 
daveyboy88 said:
hes positioned himself so that the club cant come out with that now.

really, what hes tried doing today should rile levy up, hes trying to have him over here.

levy needs to appoint a DOF and then say its the DOF's decision. theres no 'mutual agreement' with postecoglou desperately trying to gaslight simpletons. hes desperate to stay, he knows its back to pub football after this. not as many cameras and mics in his face then....
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

When Paratici comes back it can be painted as his decision and to be honest it probably will be.
 
Look at the scenes of. Look at every thing every player said about him over the past couple days, this group is clearly behind him and this trophy has galvanised them. Sack him and you'll have some very unhappy players, but to me that seems like he knows he's staying what he said today. Roll on season 3 baby.
 
sudoku said:
So, you want and expect us to flop next season?
That's the spirit!
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I don't expect doing the same thing will yield different results. I don't think it is possible to be as bad as Spurs were this season, but I don't see how you take the same failed system into a new season and expect different results. What I think will be different is that we'll get a new set of excuses.
 
AussieYiddo said:
Look at the scenes of. Look at every thing every player said about him over the past couple days, this group is clearly behind him and this trophy has galvanised them. Sack him and you'll have some very unhappy players, but to me that seems like he knows he's staying what he said today. Roll on season 3 baby.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Now if we can just schedule Bodo Glimt and Man United every week the sky's the limit.
 
My final say on the Ange situation.

The players won't want him to be sacked as he's part of their success story this week. They will feel like one of those horrible resets that makes everyone unsettled for a while. The many lost leagues games (if you look at our GD and goals conceded) were because our whole back 5 was out for weeks and then it became clear we had no chance of getting into Europe next season, UNLESS we won the Europa, so that was the best thing to prioritise.

Unless you bring in some amazing manager that is a no-brainer choice, sacking Ange is a huge risk to everything, including the dressing room. I'm hearing Thomas Frank now, but he doesn't have the experience that Ange now has. It would be a pure gamble. How many gambles have paid off for Levy before? Frank has managed Brentford and Brondby. That's it. Ange has a better record and pedigree, and he already knows the Spurs way. How many teams beat city 4-0 at City? You have to re-read my point above about injuries and priorities to mitigate the 17th league placing.

Did Ange get backed in the transfer window before? Nope. Only Solanke and Danso - the rest were kids for the future, that Ange had to play. He also had Kane ripped out of the team for the first time in 10 years, replaced with the less than prolific Richarlison or Solanke up front. Still finished 5th that season. If Ange was clueless, it wouldn't have been 5th.

I expect Ange will get sacked, because it's a Spurs thing to do. Go through lots of loser managers at our club and still fire the one winner. When will we ever be satisfied for 5 minutes?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top