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Management Ange Postecoglou

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I take it you are an Iraolian then?

What are you seeing in Bournemouth that makes him a game changer for Spurs?

I watched last night and they won but I didn’t see them string 3 passes together all game and Fulham really should have drawn at least.
I'm not that into watching football outside of Spurs that I can really make such a claim tbh.

But on the face of it there are enough parallels with Poch coming in from Southampton that the idea appeals to me.

He has massively overachieved with Bournemouth for a prolonged period, a wobble at this stage of the season is entirely forgivable.

He seems to be at just the right period of his career to come to a club like us, on the up, and still young and enthusiastic enough to put his all into the task.

He's gotten the best out of a group of young players, and made a team more than the sum of it's parts. He has a system that the players seem to be well coached in and comfortable with. He's not just ground out results with boring hoofball.

So I think his style of football (Iraolaball???) is the kind that's suited to being transferred over to a bigger club, whereas I don't get the same feeling from someone like a Thomas Frank.

He's gettable, or at least certainly should be for us.

I'm not all out Iraola or nothing by any strecth, but to me he just seems so much like the obvious choice, as such I imagine Levy and co will cock up the search and we'll end up with something utterly ridiculous instead.
 
Or we were never interested
Or the release clause is now trebled... Iraola doing the right thing by his current employees... look, I want to leave to go to Spurs, what about if I sign a new deal before end of season - you give me a mil singing bonus for doing you this turn and we insert a 12m release clause for me and my staff... 8m more than the 4m that is currently in there... everyone wins, except Spurs because we never win.
 
I'm not that into watching football outside of Spurs that I can really make such a claim tbh.

But on the face of it there are enough parallels with Poch coming in from Southampton that the idea appeals to me.

He has massively overachieved with Bournemouth for a prolonged period, a wobble at this stage of the season is entirely forgivable.

He seems to be at just the right period of his career to come to a club like us, on the up, and still young and enthusiastic enough to put his all into the task.

He's gotten the best out of a group of young players, and made a team more than the sum of it's parts. He has a system that the players seem to be well coached in and comfortable with. He's not just ground out results with boring hoofball.

So I think his style of football (Iraolaball???) is the kind that's suited to being transferred over to a bigger club, whereas I don't get the same feeling from someone like a Thomas Frank.

He's gettable, or at least certainly should be for us.

I'm not all out Iraola or nothing by any strecth, but to me he just seems so much like the obvious choice, as such I imagine Levy and co will cock up the search and we'll end up with something utterly ridiculous instead.
Makes me laugh when simps try to beat on Bournemouth.
They barely have a right to be in the PL, yet they're 7 points off the CL places.
He's working miracles there. Their average PL finish is 14th in the 7 full seasons to date. That includes a relegation.
Their Average GD is -19
Their average points are 42

With 6 games to go this season they've already got 48 points - which is their joint best in a season. Also under Iraola.
They've also scored 52, 2 less than last season with 6 games to go. They've conceded 40 - their best by 21 goals so far.
He has improved them by every single metric available. The play better. They score more, they concede less, they get more points the lot.
It's possible we're actually underrating what a good job he's doing there, not overrating it.
 
I'm not that into watching football outside of Spurs that I can really make such a claim tbh.

But on the face of it there are enough parallels with Poch coming in from Southampton that the idea appeals to me.

He has massively overachieved with Bournemouth for a prolonged period, a wobble at this stage of the season is entirely forgivable.

He seems to be at just the right period of his career to come to a club like us, on the up, and still young and enthusiastic enough to put his all into the task.

He's gotten the best out of a group of young players, and made a team more than the sum of it's parts. He has a system that the players seem to be well coached in and comfortable with. He's not just ground out results with boring hoofball.

So I think his style of football (Iraolaball???) is the kind that's suited to being transferred over to a bigger club, whereas I don't get the same feeling from someone like a Thomas Frank.

He's gettable, or at least certainly should be for us.

I'm not all out Iraola or nothing by any strecth, but to me he just seems so much like the obvious choice, as such I imagine Levy and co will cock up the search and we'll end up with something utterly ridiculous instead.

They will probably cock it up one way or another, that’s for sure.
 
Let us not forget, HE was the one who started it all with the fans when he criticised us for not wanting to win the City game to hand the scum the title.

This man is an abusive gaslighter and frankly a fucking humongous cunt with a shallow and petulant personality that is a projection of his own insecurities.
I’m not going to lie; I knew nothing about Postecoglou when we hired him. I had been disappointed with the faffing around beforehand (Slot, Nagelsmann etc.).

I was, however, pleased after 10 games. Who wouldn’t be? 8 wins, 2 draws and the only blot an away loss in the Carabao Cup to Premiership opposition on penalties… but he’d rotated, so understandable.

Then came the infamous Chelsea game. (Sky Sports had had another manager on before outlining in detail how he had tried to beat Tottenham - which looking back annoys me, as I cannot recall the other big teams getting this sort of public display of “how to beat them”). He had a lot of generous spirit from the fanbase, which allowed him to get away with the (now much maligned) “it’s who we are” type comment. A lot of the fanbase loved it. “Yes! We are sticking it to the man!”

I was, however, prepared to cut some slack over the next couple of defeats, as 3 of his back 5 were gone. What helped him here was a spirited 3-3 vs defending Champions Man City and a 4-1 victory over Newcastle (sort of avenging the massive defeat at St James at the end of the previous season)…

In March, so 13 months ago… the Fulham game happened… and the poor run that followed, plus the Man City/Woolwich debacle. I get it… as an employee of THFC, his job is to win as many games as is possible… but without the fans, the club is NOTHING. He just had to pooh-pooh and bat away that topic… but he didn’t. That left an enormously sour taste.

Then there is this season; where the football team, some small patches aside, have been worse than at any point in my 43 years of life (not just my 37 years of supporting). He’s been shown up in every way and the only reason he isn’t at the top of my list of disdain is because Sol Campbell is there and Daniel Levy is holding onto Campbell’s coattails.

Taking on the fans? That’s a massive no-no, Mr Downwards-staring Cough-o-matic 6000.
 
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Makes me laugh when simps try to beat on Bournemouth.
They barely have a right to be in the PL, yet they're 7 points off the CL places.
He's working miracles there. Their average PL finish is 14th in the 7 full seasons to date. That includes a relegation.
Their Average GD is -19
Their average points are 42

With 6 games to go this season they've already got 48 points - which is their joint best in a season. Also under Iraola.
They've also scored 52, 2 less than last season with 6 games to go. They've conceded 40 - their best by 21 goals so far.
He has improved them by every single metric available. The play better. They score more, they concede less, they get more points the lot.
It's possible we're actually underrating what a good job he's doing there, not overrating it.
undoubtedly he has done well... but how would he juggle the small squad he has if he was playing Thursday/Sunday/Thursday? Would need to see another season or two out of Iraola before I jump on the bandwagon. Also, managing a team where you lose your best two players every season and have to replace them with low cost gambles and working in an environment where the only expectation is survival is a much different set of parameters than what he would face at Spurs... would we be okay with winning on average 2 in 5 games and finishing 12th. If you answer yes, Iraola is your man... or maybe try a different question... would you back Bournemouth to finish above Spurs next season? I don't even know if I would take that bet, even if Ange is still here.
 
Makes me laugh when simps try to beat on Bournemouth.
They barely have a right to be in the PL, yet they're 7 points off the CL places.
He's working miracles there. Their average PL finish is 14th in the 7 full seasons to date. That includes a relegation.
Their Average GD is -19
Their average points are 42

With 6 games to go this season they've already got 48 points - which is their joint best in a season. Also under Iraola.
They've also scored 52, 2 less than last season with 6 games to go. They've conceded 40 - their best by 21 goals so far.
He has improved them by every single metric available. The play better. They score more, they concede less, they get more points the lot.
It's possible we're actually underrating what a good job he's doing there, not overrating it.
Basically Iraola is doing everything Postecoglu isn't and more importantly he's improved virtually every player at Bournemouth, where as virtually all the players at Spurs have regressed.
 
undoubtedly he has done well... but how would he juggle the small squad he has if he was playing Thursday/Sunday/Thursday? Would need to see another season or two out of Iraola before I jump on the bandwagon. Also, managing a team where you lose your best two players every season and have to replace them with low cost gambles and working in an environment where the only expectation is survival is a much different set of parameters than what he would face at Spurs... would we be okay with winning on average 2 in 5 games and finishing 12th. If you answer yes, Iraola is your man... or maybe try a different question... would you back Bournemouth to finish above Spurs next season? I don't even know if I would take that bet, even if Ange is still here.
I think he might have a learning curve, but that's the great thing, he's young and still learning himself. Unlike the one dimensional dinosaur we have now. Poch was pretty poor in Europe in his first 2 seasons then we get to a Champions League 1/4 final Vs Juve then a final.
All while keeping us competitive in the league.
I would rather we are up in the European positions in the PL than going deep IN Europe. That's too "all or nothing" for me. What's the point in killing your bread and butter form to go out in the later rounds of Europe?
 
The sad thing is we are 100% sacking him Friday morning after we get knocked out of Europe. Just a shame we can't get it done now and actually give ourselves a chance of going through.

We'll be 2-0 down after 20 mins on Thursday. Its so fucking obvious. We know exactly what Ange will do. We'll be playing out from the back and managing the game all wrong against what will be a high press and a very intense atmostphere. We'll be 2-0 down before we start playing
 
undoubtedly he has done well... but how would he juggle the small squad he has if he was playing Thursday/Sunday/Thursday? Would need to see another season or two out of Iraola before I jump on the bandwagon. Also, managing a team where you lose your best two players every season and have to replace them with low cost gambles and working in an environment where the only expectation is survival is a much different set of parameters than what he would face at Spurs... would we be okay with winning on average 2 in 5 games and finishing 12th. If you answer yes, Iraola is your man... or maybe try a different question... would you back Bournemouth to finish above Spurs next season? I don't even know if I would take that bet, even if Ange is still here.
Well my friend, I have some good news for you on that front for next season...

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Also I don't see the point in winning this European cup with him as the manager. It'll be like Ten Hag at United last year. If anything we'll end up keeping him even though we know he's not good enough and not learning from his mistakes. Imagine how beautiful it would be if Ryan Mason was the manager and we won the cup. It would really make you proud to be a fan.

That ship has sailed with Ange - he clearly hates the fans and never recovered from questioning us not wanting Woolwich to win the league last year. He didn't back it up. Imagine if we did beat Man City last year and won Woolwich the league? We might have got top 4... BIG DEAL! We'd have embarrassed ourselves in that new 32 team format under Ange and would be out of Europe and still down in 14th.... It would have achieved nothing, only would have won Woolwich a league. We were right to want to lose that day even though he went out of his way to embarrass us over it.
 
The sad thing is we are 100% sacking him Friday morning after we get knocked out of Europe. Just a shame we can't get it done now and actually give ourselves a chance of going through.

We'll be 2-0 down after 20 mins on Thursday. Its so fucking obvious. We know exactly what Ange will do. We'll be playing out from the back and managing the game all wrong against what will be a high press and a very intense atmostphere. We'll be 2-0 down before we start playing

Unless it's a massacre and there's fans revolting in the stands, it'll be after the season is done.
 
Bloody hell, thats 43 pts from our last 39 league games. Its just unreal and it makes me hate the false equivalence of the 'Redknapp, Poch and Conte failed as well' gaslighters even more.
1.1ppg
Absolute dogshit.
But that equates to 42 points in a 38 game season.
We ain't getting that this season.
40 points would be 1.05ppg
37 would be 0.97ppg

Seriously.


There are people, with a pulse, that still believe this can work out.
 
I think it's about time we stop being nice to the remaining Ange supporters.

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