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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Deuterz said:
The big teams don't even get in to the europa league to see if they'll take it seriously, because they're all in the champions league.

When they do end up in it, it's mostly a "why the fuck are we here" from the fans and half arsed performances unless they're having another crap season and need to qualify for champions league.

You can literally get europa league qualification in the prem now from finishing what, 7th is it? Or lower? I can't even work it out anymore, we'll probably have Nottingham Forest in it next season and I wouldn't be fucking surprised if they win it, they'd be one of the top 5 favourites.
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the big teams dont take the FA cup seriously if they are in a title race or deep in europe. the FA cup lost its glamour decades ago due to the CL.

you said liverpool a couple years ago earlier, in which when klopp realised his arrogance had underestimated atalanta he threw the kitchen sink at the tie to try and get back into it. pep gave us the same arrogance when we made the final by putting a weakened city side out against us in the 1/4s of the CL, thought he could take the piss and bench KDB.

no ones saying that the europa is harder to win than the FA cup which is debatable as the side finishing 12th in the prem has just won it this year.... but the eufa cup has far more prestige in world football than an english domestic cup!

outside of the big 5 leagues, teams would rather win the europa than their own domestic league. europa is a far bigger achievement for the likes of celtic and rangers than a poxy scottish prem title.
 
Deuterz said:
The big teams don't even get in to the europa league to see if they'll take it seriously, because they're all in the champions league.

When they do end up in it, it's mostly a "why the fuck are we here" from the fans and half arsed performances unless they're having another crap season and need to qualify for champions league.

You can literally get europa league qualification in the prem now from finishing what, 7th is it? Or lower? I can't even work it out anymore, we'll probably have Nottingham Forest in it next season and I wouldn't be fucking surprised if they win it, they'd be one of the top 5 favourites.
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Villa will piss the EL next season and prove your point correct, no doubt.


They’ve done that everytime they’ve been in it.
 
Hoddle2Waddle said:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!! Don't ruin this cup win joy for me and regret that we even won it.

Just part ways, give him a thank you note, his money, and just LEAVE ...

If this guy stays, all this joy will be gone within the first month of next season .. The stadium, locker room, online boards, all will be so toxic .... He lucked it with this win and looks good, we got our trophy, but that's it.

Give us a REAL football manager please now .. The win showed you what these players (with key injuries) can do. Imagine what a real manager could do with them and any new signings.

PLEASE END IT.
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Spot on mate.

It will be a disaster and we will ruin yet another league season, but this time there won't be a European trophy to save it.

All the goodwill, all the momentum, all wasted if we keep Ange.

Nobody has any evidence or anything to show that keeping Ange is the right decision for the club. It's just sentimentality and vibes.Because all the evidence suggests it will be a massive gamble and wrong decision to continue with him.


The only thing to do is to thank him for Bilbao and part ways. It makes too much sense.

Install a manager who can actually organise a team, who is tactically balanced, who can implement a SUSTAINABLE style of play that will have us fighting at the top end of the table AND also be able to hold our own in the CL.

Ange is not that person in anyway shape or form.

The only reason people want to keep Ange is because they like him.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Villa will piss the EL next season and prove your point correct, no doubt.


They’ve done that everytime they’ve been in it.
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They’ll be a favourite. Will depend on how much they put in to it. If they’re having a bad league season and it’s their easiest shot at the CL then they will be favourites. They’re a better team than we are.

If they’re in a top 4 fight then they will prioritise accordingly. Most teams don’t throw the league to try & win the Europa like we and United did.
 
hellogoodbye said:
We get it mate, we’re shit. Europa League is shit, Ange is shit, Spurs are shit, we should all just be fucking miserable all of the time.
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We’re pretty shit, Ange is definitely shit, the Europa league isn’t shit it’s just second tier by definition and you can be as miserable as you like, personally not pretending everything is fantastic and that Ange has conquered europes elite doesn’t make me miserable.
 
Jnrbuckeye2756 said:
I'm a Tottenham Hotspur fan to my own Fault that's for damned sure. An American who Chose to support Spurs only a few years ago from afar just for the coach Poch and Kane and Son and Erickson. Call me whatever you wish I couldn't care less. You're accepting a Top tier club that Routinely performs as Mids and you think what happened this season is a ok because you're Stupid enough to Waste pesos supporting Levy and Angie. Ridiculous. Knob slobberer.
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For a self-confessed glory-hunter from many thousands of miles away , who has followed our club for almost a decade ; you seem to be taking this once in 41 / 17 years achievement very badly.

Dare I say .
 
Aphex said:
Spot on mate.

It will be a disaster and we will ruin yet another league season, but this time there won't be a European trophy to save it.

All the goodwill, all the momentum, all wasted if we keep Ange.

Nobody has any evidence or anything to show that keeping Ange is the right decision for the club. It's just sentimentality and vibes.Because all the evidence suggests it will be a massive gamble and wrong decision to continue with him.


The only thing to do is to thank him for Bilbao and part ways. It makes too much sense.

Install a manager who can actually organise a team, who is tactically balanced, who can implement a SUSTAINABLE style of play that will have us fighting at the top end of the table AND also be able to hold our own in the CL.

Ange is not that person in anyway shape or form.

The only reason people want to keep Ange is because they like him.
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I like him becuase he is a winner and he has a united dressing room. Tell me the last time that happened.
Oh and he did not start injured players in a Euro cup final either!
 
pleb said:
I like him becuase he is a winner and he has a united dressing room. Tell me the last time that happened.
Oh and he did not start injured players in a Euro cup final either!
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Is he a winner really? 1 ppg, 21 league defeats and 17th place is not a fucking winner in any shape or form.

Sorry.

He is a winner in the Europa. Well we aren't in that next season. Ange will get battered in the CL
 
I'm ecstatic over the fact we are Europa league champions! Our first major trophy in 17 years! Respect and congratulations to everyone involved in achieving this magnificent fete. But! and you knew it was coming....
This amazing achievement can be micro analysed and should be, and if you are going to then you have to look at the competition we faced and where we currently sit in the premier league table.
Has it really taken an exceptional manager to produce what he has with the squad he had, injuries included, to produce what we have?
A dummed down EL and 17th in The EPL. All with turgid displays of football. The bottom line for me is this manager with all his verbal bollocks with the press and towards the loyal, committed fan base is not fit to wear the shirt and should leave with his head held high (Trophy Winner) and our thanks for Bilbao, but never darken our door again!
 
tommyboyspurs said:
I can't watch another league season where we get dominated by all the prem teams again

We have been sussed out and got a run in the europa the cl teams will be a different proposition not to mention prem teams sussing us out. Will he adapt i don't think he will in the league
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In the end although to get the trophy we had 25% pocession which must one of the lowest ever. Even forest manage more. It was pure Jose / conte ball to the max. Which is what most people didn’t want. If he can’t marry the attacking football with some solidity then we are in for same as this season in the league.
 
bk_spur said:
We got smoked by prem sides all year long- even with our first choice players available. Why would we do better in the FA cup then? The EL is pretty much the only cup we could have really won based on our form vs other Prem sides NOT named man utd or that were relegated.
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That would be terrible....if it was remotely true. This JUST when first choice defence starts, not allowing for other creative players being available.

Ange Postecoglou's Tottenham side's results vary significantly based on the availability of their first-choice defense. When the full back five (Vicario, Van de Ven, Romero, Porro, and Udogie) is available, they have a strong record, achieving 1.88 points per game. However, in games without this starting defense, their points per game drop to 1.47. This highlights the team's reliance on their key defensive players and the impact of injuries or suspensions on their performance.
Elaboration:
Strong Record with Full Back Five:
In the 25 games where the starting back five was available, Tottenham secured 14 wins, 5 draws, and 6 losses, resulting in 1.88 points per game.
 
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