Why do people discount the opening 10 matches of his tenure, it's so stupid
Because everyone knows he was found out after 10 matches
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Because everyone knows he was found out after 10 matches
Are we across the social media scuttle saying. Ange has been told its over compensation being worked out a haggle over Levy wanting the Europa bonus included in the severance package? Supposedly sources with in the professional game?
Why do people discount the opening 10 matches of his tenure, it's so stupid
Is it though? I’m not saying you completely discount it but there has to be some context. Use your damn brain a little. It’s pretty reasonable that a fresh team at the beginning of the year with new tactics and a favorable schedule could catch fire a bit. Outliers are that for a reason. Because they aren’t indicative of the overall picture. And when you have 10 games with a ppg of 2.6 and then the subsequent 28 at 1.43 and then the subsequent full game season at 1.0 then it’s pretty fair to say that the first 10 games were a blip of an outlier. It’s not like we’re saying we discount half his tenure. It’s been 76 league games. Outside of the first 10 it’s been a steady trajectory into absolute shambles.
So once again how does that discount from the first 10 matches?
What an idiotic statement even for you!Why do people discount the opening 10 matches of his tenure, it's so stupid
We are yet again at the crossroads
History suggests that whatever the right thing to do is , Levy will just ignore or do the opposite
History suggests that whatever the right thing to do is , Levy will just ignore or do the opposite
I think the silence speaks volumes.
All the reliable journalists like Orstein, now Delaney, and others saying the expectation is Ange will be sacked.
Ally Gold's article today says that talk around Spurs is that the delay is to let the cup euphoria die down so that the crowd aren't so angry when Ange gets the bullet.
Weird though how Ally seems to suggest so many Spurs fans want Ange to stay after the cup win, I think it's much more 50/50 than is being portrayed on social media.
It's going to happen soon Ange Outters and it will be a glorious day.
All the reliable journalists like Orstein, now Delaney, and others saying the expectation is Ange will be sacked.
Ally Gold's article today says that talk around Spurs is that the delay is to let the cup euphoria die down so that the crowd aren't so angry when Ange gets the bullet.
Weird though how Ally seems to suggest so many Spurs fans want Ange to stay after the cup win, I think it's much more 50/50 than is being portrayed on social media.
It's going to happen soon Ange Outters and it will be a glorious day.
Those odds are still higher than i'd like. Think Miguel Delaney is usually pretty decent though.
Because people like Harry7 keeping spouting he finished 5th ignoring the form of the last 3/4 of the season as if he’s likely to produce that form every season.
Well he didn’t did he?!
It’s pretty self explanatory!
Bolded are the huge issues for me. In all his time at Spurs Vertonghen only missed around 30 games for us due to injury, Toby's numbers were fairly similar, also I'm sorry but if all those defenders were so world class individually you could replace one of them with a lesser player without your defensive stability falling to pieces, we weren't suddenly conceding 4 or 5 a game during the Poch years when Toby or Vert had an injury, and their backups weren't exactly world class. You can't use it as some sort of absolving factor for all 4 of those defenders that they have rarely played together, firstly their lack of availability is a knock against their overall value as a player, secondly just because they didn't all 4 play together many games doesn't mean that 3/4 of those players weren't present in the vast majority of our line-ups this season.
I mean you didn't need to go to lengths to write such a load of waffle, but I thank you for the boring lecture about PPG and fancy words like outliers...it still doesn't explain how we managed to finish 5th so please do try again.
You can say the same about every other team and manager when they hit form, oh what suddenly it doesn't count because of an easier fixture schedule and catching teams on off days and injuries and suspensions etc, we can be here all day, can't we?
It's very very very simple you deserve to finish where you are after 38 matches in a league season hence why we have a points system come the end of the season, we don't need the mental gymnastics.
Absolute nonsense argument.
So you're using an extreme and ignoring facts because someone else who is opposing your argument is doing the same thing? Brilliant.
The performance level of the team in the PL has got worse and worse and time has gone on, it's an undeniable fact. Even when we were struggling with injuries in Ange's first season, we still got some jammy results and showed some life. What we have now is a completely dead team in the PL. If we score first it doesn't matter, we are probably going to lose anyway. If we concede first then it's over. When was the last time we won a PL match coming from behind? I think it's Villa at home back at the start of November.
If you look at the PL, which is the best way to judge a manager's work, Ange has been dogshit. He had a new manager bounce then we fell off a cliff and never climbed back up. Losing to Leicester at home (yet another game where we were 1-0 up!) is enough on it's own.
Spot on. The cup win rightly increased the volume of the cultists. I was happy for them to enjoy it. I enjoyed it an haven't wavered from the belife this is the poorest coach we've ever had no matter how hard that is for a few really odd posters to accept. So I think the noise made makes his support seem deeper than it is. If Paratici is now driving the football he will know Postecoglou has not met the most basic competencies.
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What are you on about?
It’s like saying ‘my cars very reliable’, when it was for the first 5 years of ownership, but for the last 5 years it breaks down weekly!
The 5th place finish was influenced by the opening 10 games. Second season he’s finished 17th, so what do you think is a fairer indicator of his ability and where he’d likely finish next season?! Do you think you ignore last season?!
Blimey! It’s not a difficult concept to get your noggin around!
The Brentford manager appeals to me for a number of reason (assuming we can't get Inzaghi).
1) He's consistently improven both Brentford as a team and individual players. Much ala Poch.
2) He's done it in the Prem (so we know he can hack it in this damned league, which is just such an outlier compared to the world of football
3) He actively admits to adjusting systems based on opposition and having multiple formations that he trains for. Modern football has moved away from "one system" coaches, ala Mourinho, Conte, and even Pep.
4. Xavi did well, but only with Barcelona (a stacked team, even at their weakest when he was in charge), and hasn't yet done it in the prem.
1) He's consistently improven both Brentford as a team and individual players. Much ala Poch.
2) He's done it in the Prem (so we know he can hack it in this damned league, which is just such an outlier compared to the world of football
3) He actively admits to adjusting systems based on opposition and having multiple formations that he trains for. Modern football has moved away from "one system" coaches, ala Mourinho, Conte, and even Pep.
4. Xavi did well, but only with Barcelona (a stacked team, even at their weakest when he was in charge), and hasn't yet done it in the prem.
Being most fair and possibly overkind to Ange, you'd discount both the first 10 games (outlier, and clearly a bit of a manager bump), and the last 10 games (injuries, and focused on the EL). Even doing that, he simply has not shown any ability to coach a top 6 team in the prem. He does not have the tactical advancement or flexibility to succeed in this league.
They are probably trying to line up a replacement.