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Soldados died on the end of more crosses than a fictional chippie.
Relegation? Oh FFS. Why is it every time after a lacklustre display we have this melty nonsense? We aren't going to be in a relegation fight now. We have fallen behind the top four, no question. But the reason for that is because we never replaced VDV, Modric, King and Bale. The current crop aren't at the same level, but they are hardly crap. What is evident though is that we have relied too heavily on Kane to get us out of trouble this season, just as we did Bale in his last season, and that was always going to be a mistake. But that's what comes with being a top six side and not a top four side. It also doesn't mean that once this manager has his second season he won't have then had a chance to make some further signings and bring in some new young players from the academy. I'd also argue that no manager from AVB onwards could really expect that the "super seven" signings would remain, for the most part, so utterly dire two years on.
We have regressed (and I use that word reluctantly) to a top six side for reason that are too evident. But as Redknapp quite rightly said then, at that time we'd never had it so good. We are in sixth place and that is our level in all other respects. We are neither punching above our weight nor below it. So, when you consider all that, our performances this season as whole have not been below what we can reasonably expect. With the new stadium on the way I would not expect huge investment in the side (and I think that's one of the reasons Poch was brought in - to work with the acdemy and young signings) so I think fans need to accept that. When you're at the level we are there are going to be bad days like this, because we don't have the spit and polish of the sides above us. I think people are just going to make peace with fact that this is where we'll be competing for the next few years. I have, and to be honest I've felt a lot more relaxed as a fan than I have in probably the past ten years. At the end of the day, we still have it better than 95% of football fans.
This is new for me, but I WAS FORCED to log in to browse this forum, just to be able to block Greaves357_bestever.
This shouldn't be a post to be honest, but I'm just so enraged that I don't give a fuck. That defeatist bullshit and relishing in other peoples' hope just grind my shit. Sorry for the rant.
This shouldn't be a post to be honest, but I'm just so enraged that I don't give a fuck. That defeatist bullshit and relishing in other peoples' hope just grind my shit. Sorry for the rant.
Even if the top 4 has gone, it would be fantastic to finish above the dippers. 5th in Poch's first season would be more than most of us expected. Just got to keep going and see what happens.
I think this thread should be relabelled 'Nothing to see here'
Burnley will need to win this, hopefully they are as open as Leicester were today. Hopefully we actually see some change, I want Townsend and Chadli dropped and I want to see Dembele and Lamela back in the starting eleven. We need to sort out the defence too, whether you love him or hate him, we need Fazio back in the team, teams are just lumping it long and we can't deal with it, at least Fazio can stay there and use his height.
The premier league table.
Strange how that gets ignored really.
Makes you wonder how we got where we are, and Burnley where they are. What with them being so good. After beating citeh they went straight to 2nd in the table, no?
Waste of time mate.
He says there is nothing in our recent form to say we can beat Burnley ... we have won 3 of our last 4 league games, including the teams either side of Burnley in the table. You point this out and it is a personal attack.
He says Poch has made shocking choices in the start 11, ask him what his preferred team would be and that is a personal attack.
To be honest. I'm just enjoying watching Tottenham again. I'd love for us to finish fifth but I wouldn't be disheartened with sixth. It was always a case of players being on trial this year, some have come out tops, some won't make the cut. I just look forward to getting a nice pre-season underway, some Pochettino signings in the summer and seeing some exciting youth come into the mix in the likes of Alli and Pritchard.
Vorm's ball distribution really is so much better than Lloris'.
If only we could combine the two...
If only we could combine the two...
Gary Neville: "Paulinho's been anonymous, I haven't seen anything of him."
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It stuns me that people still look at games like this an blame the manager. It has been three years and three separate managers and yet these performances remain a constant. The problem is quite obviously our players. We've lacked quality since we lost King, Modric, and VDV in one summer and then Kaboul, Parker, and Sandro crocked themselves during the first three months of the next season. Then obviously Bale left. That was the spine of our last top 4 team and it all disappeared in about six months (excluding Bale).
We've started to replace some of the quality with the emergence of Kane, Bentaleb, Rose, and Mason (at times) and also the solid buys of Eriksen and Vertonghen. The quality has reemerged this year a bit and Pochettino has the best style we've had in recent memory but we still have a long way to go in terms of player quality.
We need to buy this summer and continue to see the improvement of our young players in the first team already and in the academy. This is a process and not one that will happen overnight. But you could bring SAF tomorrow and he still wouldn't be able to fix the likes of Paulinho and many of our players. We need to improve our playing staff, not coaching.
We've started to replace some of the quality with the emergence of Kane, Bentaleb, Rose, and Mason (at times) and also the solid buys of Eriksen and Vertonghen. The quality has reemerged this year a bit and Pochettino has the best style we've had in recent memory but we still have a long way to go in terms of player quality.
We need to buy this summer and continue to see the improvement of our young players in the first team already and in the academy. This is a process and not one that will happen overnight. But you could bring SAF tomorrow and he still wouldn't be able to fix the likes of Paulinho and many of our players. We need to improve our playing staff, not coaching.
That's all fine - but where are you staying tonight?