Fair point , you did give the world the game of Pétanque I suppose.
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Terrible puns and shit jokes about each others playing careers?
While the first two games were dog shit, I don't know why people are acting like England couldn't simply just start to perform and play better. Sometimes you raise your game against the better opposition, we've seen this in football time after time. Sometimes all it takes is a good performance or even just a good goal to get a team going.
If we get a win and a decent performance tonight and then win the next game in the last 16 I'll be more than fine that we weren't at the races at the beginning of the tournament.
If we get a win and a decent performance tonight and then win the next game in the last 16 I'll be more than fine that we weren't at the races at the beginning of the tournament.
A bit like how West Ham and Chelsea always save their best performances for us.
You know the answer to this already
Because it's not just two games - it's years of tournament football performances being underwhelming and there are fundamental issues (e.g. no left back) that there is no solution to.
We weren't underwhelming in the last World Cup. Other than against the US we played well in every game, including the loss against France.
We played Iran and Wales
Wales generally always give us a game. Iran and Senegal were supposed to be a challenge until we drubbed them, then they suddenly became shit all along.
Of course we should be beating Iran, and we did. But they were supposed to be a challenge relishing the underdog role and we blew them away. Doesn't matter though. England could beat Germany, Spain and Portugal in this tournament and for some people it will always be because the other teams weren't as strong as before, or didn't turn up, blah blah.
Do they though?
We've won the last 7 games in a row against them and you have to go back to the 1980s for the last time Wales beat us.
Germany, Spain and Portugal are all top teams this tournament. Beating any one of them would be a huge result.
Fortunately you know that the first time you’re likely to face any of them is the final.
If you do somehow conspire to not beat Slovenia then you are totally fucked in that side of the draw.
Not really. Unlike you I don't brick myself at the thought of facing a good team. Of course, in a last 16 game you would prefer to face one of the lesser sides but in tournament football anything can happen in the knockout stage. I'd actually be more comfortable England being the underdogs somewhat rather than big favourites in a game. I'm not going to cry myself to sleep at the thought of possibly facing Germany when we've shown in the last 6 years or so to be at the very least on a par with them.
If that happened, there could be absolutely no way that anyone would ever say that.
Fact is, the only team we've beaten under Gareth in tournament football (not qualifying) that was a traditional powerhouse is Germany.
There's a big difference between giving us a game and them actually winning a game.
You'd have thought if it was always so close though they'd have mustered up more than a single win in 40 years against us.
Our record against Germany, Italy and France is better than that isn't it?