Rested for a game is the same as dropped for a game. The player is not on the pitch.
Wrap it up in all the pretty red ribbons you want.....but "absolutely untouchable" still means he shouldnt be rested doesnt it
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Rested for a game is the same as dropped for a game. The player is not on the pitch.
Wrap it up in all the pretty red ribbons you want.....but "absolutely untouchable" still means he shouldnt be rested doesnt it
But it's not poor form with Dier. He's just not very good in midfield, and never has been. He lacks the skill set to be an elite CM. He can't move with the ball, can't receive it under pressure, doesn't have a 360% game brain, can't press because he has the turning circle of chieftain tank and is careless with the ball.
And Eriksen on an off day is definitely more use to us than Dier on a bad day, because he'll still keep doing basic things well enough and might still do the exceptional. Dier just ambles around doing simple things badly.
The you must find Poch to be pretty incompetent for continuing to pick him, and you must find it remarkable that we finished 3rd twice and 2nd with a mid table DM in the side.
Are you saying that a poor player, playing poorly, has a bigger effect on the team than an elite player playing poorly?
We finished second with Wanyama mostly playing in his place in CM and Dier playing more as a CB in a back 3.
I think if we'd had a proper, quality CM instead of Dier, we might have finished above Leicester and Woolwich in 15/16 and we might have finished above Utd in 17/18.
So, as much as I think on the whole, Poch is a great coach who gets a shitload of stuff right, I really think the whole Dier in CM thing isn't one of them.
It depends on the player and circumstances. I'm not saying there's a hard and fast rule across all footballdom. But am I saying Eriksen on one of his bad days is more useful to the team than Dier on one of his? - Yes I definitely am, generally speaking.
Personally I reckon if Toby hadnt left Huth unmarked and then pussied out of the header at WHL, we might have finished abpve Leicester.
Eriksen being useless is as useless as Dier being useless
It really isn't.
He's not a ball-playing CM and never will be - he's a CB who can help out at CDM occasionally. Expecting a creative fulcrum between him and Wanyama is unreasonable
I disagree with this comparison. A player who is dropped, will have to fight his way back in to the starting line-up for the matches following the one, he was dropped for. Whereas a player who is rested, knows that they will be starting the next match and can sit this one out, without knowing they will be in the line-up for the next match.
You can be dropped for one game though
It’s a bit like saying a Ferrari that doesn’t start is more useful than a VW that doesn’t start
For me they’re both sitting there doing fuck all.
I’m not happier because one is worth more.
Kane was never dropped - jog on
I liked Dier, especially in his first two years. He is tackling moving opponent left and right, and more often than not the timing is impeccable.
These past two years though, it felt like he is stagnated for some reason. Maybe cos he try to do too much rather than focusing on what he is good at.
A bad game is okay, i think we could even tolerated many bad games if it happen randomly every now and then. But he has been given all the time, playing almost every games.
Im curious about what Poch think of him in long term.
We really need to sort our midfield out.
Can Dier back to his best? Can Wanyama? How about Sissoko? Whether Winks can live up to the expectation. I put a lot of hope on Winks, there are glimpses of really good midfielder.
Or can we really plays Eriksen, Lamela, Dele on midfield? So far it doesnt look like it.
We really need to do something ASAP to stay competitive on the top.
These past two years though, it felt like he is stagnated for some reason. Maybe cos he try to do too much rather than focusing on what he is good at.
A bad game is okay, i think we could even tolerated many bad games if it happen randomly every now and then. But he has been given all the time, playing almost every games.
Im curious about what Poch think of him in long term.
We really need to sort our midfield out.
Can Dier back to his best? Can Wanyama? How about Sissoko? Whether Winks can live up to the expectation. I put a lot of hope on Winks, there are glimpses of really good midfielder.
Or can we really plays Eriksen, Lamela, Dele on midfield? So far it doesnt look like it.
We really need to do something ASAP to stay competitive on the top.
Welcome back, sammy.
Over the summer, I said to my old man that if I had to spend another season watching Dier play in central midfield for us, if I didn't lose the will to live entirely, I might just lose interest in Spurs. That's how bad it is for me, sammy.
That’s nice, I guess you are also in the camp that believes Kane playing like Rasiak as he was a few weeks ago is ok and a joy to behold though....
Because if a player is brilliant most of the time, that means when they are utter shite, they are still useful.
No, I actually agreed with you about Kane. He was a like a drugged hippopotamus.