Im sure he is thinking the same! On the Bench, starting 11, On the Bench, starting 11... I think he should be one of 4 names on the starting line up every match!
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Yesterday he was Super-Jan again. The very measured, controlled defending coupled with great passing and several fantastic bursting runs up the pitch, with and without the ball.
I loved it.
I loved it.
Tim Sherwood has taken aim at Tottenham’s Jan Verthonghen once more insisting: ‘He just can’t defend’.
The former Spurs boss laid into the Belgian after he produced yet another unconvincing display in the club’s 3-0 defeat to Chelsea.
Sherwood said: “Vertonghen is so poor. Can’t move his feet. He looks elegant with the ball but he just can’t defend, this guy.”
Vertonghen was frozen out of the first team under Sherwood, who left the White Hart Lane club at the end of last season.
His Spurs future remains unclear with no new deal on the horizon - despite claims from his agent that he was set to sign earlier this season - and interest from Manchester United.
Hate to say it, but Jan has looked poor all last season and has only had 1-2 good performances so far this season. Always baffles me how he's extremely quick when dribbling forward with the ball yet has awful recovery pace when needing to get back.
Do people still rate him? What do you think the issue with him is, or we did we just over-rate him in his first season?
The former Spurs boss laid into the Belgian after he produced yet another unconvincing display in the club’s 3-0 defeat to Chelsea.
Sherwood said: “Vertonghen is so poor. Can’t move his feet. He looks elegant with the ball but he just can’t defend, this guy.”
Vertonghen was frozen out of the first team under Sherwood, who left the White Hart Lane club at the end of last season.
His Spurs future remains unclear with no new deal on the horizon - despite claims from his agent that he was set to sign earlier this season - and interest from Manchester United.
Hate to say it, but Jan has looked poor all last season and has only had 1-2 good performances so far this season. Always baffles me how he's extremely quick when dribbling forward with the ball yet has awful recovery pace when needing to get back.
Do people still rate him? What do you think the issue with him is, or we did we just over-rate him in his first season?
It means he can't dance. The man needs a montage. I wonder if our brand new training ground can pipe the Rocky music in while Jan trains.
I think those steroids wouldn't hurt, either.
At least he's can back up his bullshit with previous actions.
How can Jan be mint, yet our defense be shit? I think he gets away with quite a few fuck ups to be honest. He was to blame for Chelsea's third; no one else. And what did he do? Fall over and try to drag him down. It's not the first time either.
He's our best defender, but that says more about us than him. He's not got any where near his first season performances and he'll go this year.
No he hasn't. But neither has the rest of the team performed to anywhere near what we came to expect. Give me 5 better CB's in the EPL. Name me 5 who can pull the pants down & own a "great" player (lol) like he did that game??.he's been an enigma but there is a great player waiting to show once he isnt exposed to Spursiness & if he keeps the fist pumping going, he has my voteHow can Jan be mint, yet our defense be shit? I think he gets away with quite a few fuck ups to be honest. He was to blame for Chelsea's third; no one else. And what did he do? Fall over and try to drag him down. It's not the first time either.
He's our best defender, but that says more about us than him. He's not got any where near his first season performances and he'll go this year.
Terry, Cahill, Kompany, Williams, Ivanovic and possibly also Lescott, Shawcross and Fonte.
He's 28 this season. His re-sale value is dropping minute by minute and the chance of him rediscovering form looks unlikely.
Difficult choice for Poch really; time to sell is now or never. Sell soon and get a good fee with the possibility of bringing in a player/s who could be quality (Hurhur, not with our scouting system..) or stick with a guy whose not been brilliant but not terrible either.
rofl. His resale value might be dropping because Remy put him on his ass, but not because he's 28 years old.
Barcelona don't tend to give a shit about how well their defenders can actually defend, so we're all good in that department.
Williams? Shawcross? Behave. Lescott? Oh dear. We will agree to disagree on this? Verts isn't the messiah right now but ... No mate. Kompany-agree. Terry (grudgingly agree)-the rest? No, sorry.
They don't fall flat on their fucking arse every time they get attacked, do they?
Cahill is nailed on better than Jan.
Lescott won the premier league title and was part of the best defense in the league.
Williams is stronger and faster and actually makes a tackle.
He's over-rated massively and people just fan-boy over him, like this. He isn't all that. When was the last time you saw him win a 1-1 or clear a shot off the line?
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all defenders get done from time to time it's part and parcel with the position
Kompany and Terry are no different, Terry is always falling on his hole
and your list of better centerbacks is fucking laughable
As I said before, it's an oxymoron. "Our defender is amazing, but our defense is shit". Alright then
Lets check my list of defenders, shall we?
Spurs conceded 21 goals. 8th worse defense in the league.
Lescott, West Brom - 20.
Shawcross, Stoke - 18.
Ivanovic, Cahill and Terry - 11.
Williams, Swansea - 14.
Fonte, Southampton - 10.
Strange that, they've all conceded less than us. Utterly bizarre, who would have guessed, maybe good defenders mean your team concede less goals!?!
As I said before, it's an oxymoron. "Our defender is amazing, but our defense is shit". Alright then
Our keeper is world class, but we have given up way too many goals. That works for the same reason that the statement you are laughing at does.
Now, I'm not entirely pleased with Vertonghen and not one of his bigger supporters right now, but I seem to remember more than one defender on the pitch in our most recent games.
As I said before, it's an oxymoron. "Our defender is amazing, but our defense is shit". Alright then
our defense isn't any more shit than our attack truth be told
we've already played our 2 hardest matches of the season away at shity and away at the chavs which should be taken into account not to mention the toilet bowl too
we're not even half a season into Pochs reign so making sweeping statements is stupid at this point but knock yourself out
and lastly yes you can have a good defender in a shit defense, it happens, it's a team game and one player can only do so much.
Jan is not perfect but he is a very good defender