Wondering if
Ossie Wembley
sings "he's magic you know..."
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He's a bit more a fan of the Johnny Cash version of 'Hurt' and that's when we win.
Oh thanks for that I’m only a fellow in my respective financial field so it nice to be have the basics outlined to me. And why not try reading what I actually wrote - it’s quite clear what their intention is - it was always to capitalise on the global commercialisation of the English game and via developing the clubs infrastructure. That is where they will realise their profit - there is nothing in it for them beyond that. They not here for any love for the club - and I don’t begrudge them because they have benefited the club by doing this and provided the coach with one of the best teams in the league.
If you read the Stadium thread a few weeks back, the club/ connected companies owned by ENIC have bought up lots of land around WHL and intend developing it no doubt at a profit. They dare not lose control of the Football club in case the new owners decided to object to some of their plans. I cannot see a sale for several years as they will make money from these developments.
The only thing I agree with you on is how some players didn't play a part in these games, whereby the same players played nearly a full 90 minutes in games where we were 3-0 up, 4-0 up etc over the Christmas period. Eriksen for example played far more minutes than he needed to and I believe & did wrote this at the time that he couldn't have at least been on the bench for this years knockout defeat.
Apart from that I'm sticking with the belief that the Champions League and Premier League prioritising is at present in the best interests of the club ahead of prioritising a cup run ahead of them. Money is crucial if we don't want to Finns ourselves closer to the situation Wenger found himself in having to let go of 20+ players to clubs like Barcelona, Man City & Man United in order to balance the clubs books. I highly doubt an FA Cup win wouldn't have made it feasible to pay Kane his £200k per week, Dele his £150k per week etc
Where as you are an ABBA Money, money money fan. The open top Bus parade with the balance sheet - turnover up by 30%. What a time to be alive.
Surely the FA should be able to hear what Dean had to say, as refs wear microphones now. If Poch and Jesus were rightly provoked, then surely there must be a charge against Dean, as well.
ENIC could literally buy up all sorts of land in and around the Tottenham area and regenerate the place. Real Estate & Residential is a big of slice of the Tavistock Group pie, if they slowly but surely buy a lot of the area up they'll make an absolute killing.
Hotspur Village, what a place that would be! (Chick King can stay though)
Wenger lets them then go because those players because they largely botched their contract negotiations and becuae they wanted to join bigger clubs - we are just as equally as vulnerable as them when it comes to the latter.
And no i didn’t think you would give up your CL belief - that’s what happens when the money men in pursuit of profitability and television networks hawking their tv packages peddle the notion that is the only way to the elite.
No I just don't share your view, which is infinitely depressing. I accept we've made progress and that silverware is still some way off, you think Poch isn't good enough.
I don't care about the turnover, I care that the club will continue for another 136 years without going bankrupt, they seem to be doing the right things to enable that. It's not about bus parades, it's about existing and surviving, those are not the mediocre ambitions you might think they are when you look at the history of the game and this club.
Tottenham Hotspur can't be what you want it to be, how you want to square that circle is up to you.
I just say it how I see it these days mate. Football is ruled by money now, sadly it isn't just a football club anymore it's a brand & building that brand and the commercial revenue that comes with makes a difference to our muscle long term. At this moment in time getting out of debt as quickly as possible whilst staying competitive is the most important thing. I'd love a cup, in fact I'd go bonkers if we won one, that's the end goal & the long and short of it is it is all about the glory but we are still in a building block phase and we have more wedge to fall back on should we need to pay up for contracts or replacements if we keep hovering around the areas we are now for the short term.
I don't give a shit about the profit and loss, but I do give a shit about the long term health and stability of the club as it goes through arguably one its most challenging growth spell since it began operating as a football club
Silverware is still some way off when we have players like Kane, Ali, Son, Eriksen to name a few - it really says it all.
As for going bankrupt - Jesus wept, we are one of the richest clubs in the world outside of the elite. It’s not just going to happen certainly not under the model we are run.
As for Tottenham Hotspur not being what I want it to be - you’re right. This is a club whose history has been defined by the likes of the FA Cup, UEFA cup and league cup and there will never be a circumstance where we should believe we have higher priorities than that. It’s really telling of the modern game where the person who defends this clubs history, who respects its traditions is seen as the villain of the piece.
Clubs care about the balance sheet, that's why Wenger got the sack even after winning a few FA cups recently and now you're starting to see the scum struggle in transfer windows, having to rely on loans, and not having the money to pay players like Ramsey what they want.
If the club was all about instant profit they could have cashed in Kane, Dele, Eriksen, Alderweireld, Son and there's around 250m in transfer fees right there.
We're miles off the revenues of Man Utd and Liverpool who have been building large foreign fanbases for years, and Citeh who pump money into their club through fake sponsors. It's only going to harder to compete with clubs like that.
If the club was all about instant profit they could have cashed in Kane, Dele, Eriksen, Alderweireld, Son and there's around 250m in transfer fees right there.
We're miles off the revenues of Man Utd and Liverpool who have been building large foreign fanbases for years, and Citeh who pump money into their club through fake sponsors. It's only going to harder to compete with clubs like that.
You're not a villain for wanting glory, you just judge the current set up too harshly in my view at the cost of reason.
About himself?
You would hope, what's the odds that the mike 'failed' or had accidentally been 'turned off' just before the event. I'm sure Spurs will have requested the conversation as part of their mitigation defence, but if Poch doesn't contest the charges, and he has said he won't, then no doubt a deal will be done with the FA and anything Dean said will be hushed up. There's no upside (apart from for us fans) in the club making Dean look the utter cunt we all know he is, that will just come back to hurt us over and over, we get enough bad decisions already.
If he has said ANYTHING out of order and along the lines of the suggestions, that would make it appear that he is not impartial towards us and has abused his power. Simply, he should go and an example should be made of him.
Rumours going round Twitter are that Mike Dean said
"Don't blame me for the loss, you bottled it"
Now it's only Twitter so obviously someones Nan's cat could have made it up, but it would honestly not surprise me if he said something along those lines or something similar. Seems to be the cuntish thing a referee known for wanting to be the centre of attention would say to get a rise out of Poch.
"Don't blame me for the loss, you bottled it"
Now it's only Twitter so obviously someones Nan's cat could have made it up, but it would honestly not surprise me if he said something along those lines or something similar. Seems to be the cuntish thing a referee known for wanting to be the centre of attention would say to get a rise out of Poch.
Something must have been said for Poch to react the way he did. Especially when they were asking 'what did you say?'
So, this is from Clattenberg:
What's interesting here is that all ref's are now recorded and from knowing him, he believes that it's more than likely he's the type to say something.
Some audio from the TV here, one thing I hadn't heard before was Jimenez saying "you'll never work again".
Dean and Oliver are two of many refs in this league that need investigating, I believe they allow personal bias to interfere with their jobs and they aren't impartial, have thought this for a number of years now and I genuinely think this league also has an issue with corruption, hence why VAR is desperately needed, the problem is VAR will fix the big decisions but it isn't going to stop refs influencing games by giving teams niggly fouls all over the pitch, interrupting play constantly and things such as the corner that was given against us because VAR doesn't review that, which just makes me think this shit will continue.
What really needs to happen is foreign refs coming in who are capable of impartiality and have the fitness levels and clarity of mind to officiate the game fairly and justly.
Unlike people like Dean who wants to make the game all about himself with his pathetic celebrations and cunty attitude because they know they are NEVER held to account for the shit they do.
Poch should expose what he said, I think this is why I am so disappointed in him, it feels very ”yes man” of him to not say something, I would rather he be banned from the touchline for the rest of the season and expose the bullshit in the game than just give an apology for nothing and weasel away.