Mauricio Pochettino

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Dean and Oliver are two of many refs in this league that need investigating, I believe they allow personal bias to interfere with their jobs and they aren't impartial, have thought this for a number of years now and I genuinely think this league also has an issue with corruption, hence why VAR is desperately needed, the problem is VAR will fix the big decisions but it isn't going to stop refs influencing games by giving teams niggly fouls all over the pitch, interrupting play constantly and things such as the corner that was given against us because VAR doesn't review that, which just makes me think this shit will continue.

What really needs to happen is foreign refs coming in who are capable of impartiality and have the fitness levels and clarity of mind to officiate the game fairly and justly.

Unlike people like Dean who wants to make the game all about himself with his pathetic celebrations and cunty attitude because they know they are NEVER held to account for the shit they do.

Poch should expose what he said, I think this is why I am so disappointed in him, it feels very ”yes man” of him to not say something, I would rather he be banned from the touchline for the rest of the season and expose the bullshit in the game than just give an apology for nothing and weasel away.

Nah - looks like a trade off to be honest.

Poch will keep quiet in return to not receiving a touch line ban and they keep Mike Dean away from us for the rest of the season.
 

Chills from Perez (normally so lovely) going absolutely apeshit like that.

One thing to note there about how snide Dean is: he clearly waited until the camera was facing the other way to goad Poch and co (and couldn't be lip read after the fact). I don't think there's been a more obvious case of a referee getting off on the power he wields in the game - it shall be a grand day indeed when he retires.
 
Chills from Perez (normally so lovely) going absolutely apeshit like that.

One thing to note there about how snide Dean is: he clearly waited until the camera was facing the other way to goad Poch and co (and couldn't be lip read after the fact). I don't think there's been a more obvious case of a referee getting off on the power he wields in the game - it shall be a grand day indeed when he retires.

Jimenez telling him he'll never work again if you hear closely enough as well. Clearly he's said something for all 3 to react like they did.

I've just posted a link to the BBC website that says Mike Deans last gig officiating a game involving Liverpool was back in 2006 but for some reason he got pulled from being in charge of that one. Before then he'd only been in charge of 1 game involving the Scousers. 1 game in 19 years or whatever it's been of him being a referee! His hometown is Wirral so clearly the FA keep him clear of any Liverpool matches for potential personal reasons. If that's the case surely he can't be put in charge of a game whereby if we win we could have closed the gap to them by 2 points should a challenging game at Old Trafford 24 hours gone a different way.

I hope the club really go to town on this one, something's been iffy about him as an official for too long not just involving us but a fair few teams as well. Always in the limelight for all the wrong reasons
 
I completely disagree with Poch doing a deal and accepting any punishment. Who cares what the club and FA think. It's more important than looking nice. No reason to back down. Beta.
 
I really expect it is routine that the FA will ask for the recording from Dean. There is so much Press speculation that they are bound to want to hear it. Having said that, they will probably do nothing about it but this is Poch's first offence and he will probably be dealt with leniently.
It is similar to what happens on the field when a player says something to another and he reacts. It is always the one that reacts that is punished.
 
Chills from Perez (normally so lovely) going absolutely apeshit like that.

One thing to note there about how snide Dean is: he clearly waited until the camera was facing the other way to goad Poch and co (and couldn't be lip read after the fact). I don't think there's been a more obvious case of a referee getting off on the power he wields in the game - it shall be a grand day indeed when he retires.
He's recorded mate, every word uttered will be picked up. It's the reason why they recorded.
 
Dean and Oliver are two of many refs in this league that need investigating, I believe they allow personal bias to interfere with their jobs and they aren't impartial, have thought this for a number of years now and I genuinely think this league also has an issue with corruption, hence why VAR is desperately needed, the problem is VAR will fix the big decisions but it isn't going to stop refs influencing games by giving teams niggly fouls all over the pitch, interrupting play constantly and things such as the corner that was given against us because VAR doesn't review that, which just makes me think this shit will continue.

What really needs to happen is foreign refs coming in who are capable of impartiality and have the fitness levels and clarity of mind to officiate the game fairly and justly.

Unlike people like Dean who wants to make the game all about himself with his pathetic celebrations and cunty attitude because they know they are NEVER held to account for the shit they do.

Poch should expose what he said, I think this is why I am so disappointed in him, it feels very ”yes man” of him to not say something, I would rather he be banned from the touchline for the rest of the season and expose the bullshit in the game than just give an apology for nothing and weasel away.
Sorry fella but disagree on everything you said there.

VAR solves nothing. Decisions are still made with an interpretation of the law, therefore not everyone will share that interpretation. Not to mention that it when you review something, something can be found if you look hard enough, an example of this numerous times in the weekend just gone.

Ref's can be good or bad, good ref's have bad games and bad ref's have good games (just like players/managers).
Deal with the fact that ref's are human, not machines (just like players/managers).
Your attitude towards ref's is why many games struggle to get played at a grassroots level, as no one wants to ref anymore.

As for bias please tell me what Oliver's bias is? Tell me what Dean's bias is? This must be very easy to call as they have both ref'd hundreds of professional games.

The only ref's that have been convicted of bribery have been foreign" yet you say they are the answer.
What rule has Dean broken for being "cunty"? Because he has his quirks you think this is wrong. Do you think the same of Collina? He had his quirks too, so much so they became an icon of the game.

NOTHING is "yes man" about Poch actions. Just because you think Dean is corrupt doesn't mean Poch does, therefore Poch is and has been respectful to football by holding his hands up that he was in the wrong for confronting the ref, something he has publicly admitted to doing and publicly apologised for, rightly so as he WAS IN THE WRONG. There is a process to go through, if he wishes to make something of it then he can, it's up to him if he wishes to do so.
 
It was quite obvious on Saturday that Dean was giving a bias to Burnley. Maybe that’s because they were home, maybe he got in synch with a frankly idiotic home support who felt any challenge on the ball as a red card, who knows. But don’t let the argument at the end cloud the fact that Dean was terrible, a good example being how he gave a free kick against Foyth after Foyth had his shirt ripped ! Maybe that goes on the linesman, but it’s poor officiating from the team.

There is obviously no way that all 3 of our coaches react as they did if they were not reacting to something else. And I am pleased they stood up to the ref !

I suspect the current passive Poch is partly being presented to take some heat off his team.
 
If you haven’t picked up on this then you clearly haven’t been paying attention. But please answer answer me this, if an investment consortium headed by individual with doesn’t actually even like football, doesn’t extract revenue from a club where will they see a return on their capital? What is their motive for owning the club?

That is a super easy question here *

Return of capital comes from the fact that the selling price is higher than the purchase price. There are basically two types of investments - those that you expect to earn you a constant cash flow (and you can basically keep them for unlimited time - in terms of stockmarket those are dividend stocks; in RE those are condos or business RE units with good tenants) and then there are investments where you expect to sell for more than you paid for them (usually held for limited time, in stock market so called "growth stocks" ; in RE such objects that you buy, renovate/make better and then sell on).

I can clearly see that investment into our club falls into latter, so it is absolutely logical that there is no money taken out of the club. So really you are the one claiming otherwise, and you are one with burdain of proof that it is like you say it is.

* maybe not for everyone, but I have BA in finance and have worked in finance for few years now

If you read the Stadium thread a few weeks back, the club/ connected companies owned by ENIC have bought up lots of land around WHL and intend developing it no doubt at a profit. They dare not lose control of the Football club in case the new owners decided to object to some of their plans. I cannot see a sale for several years as they will make money from these developments.

Interesting reading. I don't search far for club info so I'm pretty sure I read somewhere here that the intention is to sell but with a buyer that agrees to leave Levy as chairman.

Levy is a Tottenham fan and I can see him wanting so stay I can't remember if there were more intimate details but perhaps Levy may take a large pay off from any sale made, removing Lewis' interests while Levy retains a small percentage interest and placee as chairman and / or a permanent position as a board member at the least ?

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than I can confirm or ready the stocks for the village idiot
 
It was quite obvious on Saturday that Dean was giving a bias to Burnley.

Nope. Not obvious to me at all.

If he was, why didn't he call back the Rose throw taken from the wrong position that led directly to Kane's goal. Easiest thing on the world to do. No-one would have questioned it (except the conspiracy theorists on this forum).

Dean may be good or bad, but in my view he's not bent or biased.

No conspiracy.
 
So, this is from Clattenberg:
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What's interesting here is that all ref's are now recorded and from knowing him, he believes that it's more than likely he's the type to say something.
Some audio from the TV here, one thing I hadn't heard before was Jimenez saying "you'll never work again".


But according to mikes01666 everyone imagined it
 
Nope. Not obvious to me at all.

If he was, why didn't he call back the Rose throw taken from the wrong position that led directly to Kane's goal. Easiest thing on the world to do. No-one would have questioned it (except the conspiracy theorists on this forum).

Dean may be good or bad, but in my view he's not bent or biased.

No conspiracy.
How many throw ins are taken on the spot they went out?
None.
 
How many throw ins are taken on the spot they went out?
None.

So that makes it Ok? It's one of the laws of the game.

Dean could easily have stopped the game. No-one would have batted an eyelid. Instead he let it go.

Direct evidence that Dean is a secret Spurs supporter and is biased in our favour. Nonsense all of it. We see what we want to see.
 
Nope. Not obvious to me at all.

If he was, why didn't he call back the Rose throw taken from the wrong position that led directly to Kane's goal. Easiest thing on the world to do. No-one would have questioned it (except the conspiracy theorists on this forum).

Dean may be good or bad, but in my view he's not bent or biased.

No conspiracy.

Throw ins like most free kicks are never taken from the point of occurrence. 4/5 Yards ( meters ) is not unusual on any level.

I my view, too many decisions went to the home side Saturday. Foyth’s booking was weak as fuck, Llorente’s was laughable. Then when Bardsley gets booked....well, we know.

That all said our team ultimately failed to win. No excuses on that. We failed.
 
Throw ins like most free kicks are never taken from the point of occurrence. 4/5 Yards ( meters ) is not unusual on any level.

Rule 15:

At the moment of delivering the ball, the thrower must:
  • stand facing the field of play
  • have part of each foot on the touchline or on the ground outside the touchline (Aurier please note)
  • throw the ball with both hands from behind and over the head from the point where it left the field of play
All opponents must stand at least 2 m (2 yds) from the point at which the throw-in is taken.

However Rose stole 5 yards (or 10 depending on who you believe). If he'd called Rose back no-one would have raised an objection.

Are we now choosing which Laws to follow, or which ones apply to us?

We now have a 'Mike Dean' thread - discussing said individual. Other fans must be looking at it an laughing. "Look, Spurs fans, always the victims"

We need to get over it (we're not Liverpool fans) and move on the tomorrow night.
 
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